I want to program a game, what do i need?

**DarkViper** · 11-13-2002

actually i finally looked at allegro.cc and it seems to be quite nice, and it goes with dev C++.

**Hunter2** · 11-13-2002

no double buffering? looks like you haven't been using GDI for very long... but its rendering speed for 2d is adequate, as long as you don't involve StretchBlt() (as I said earlier). Besides, you mentioned that you created an engine in OpenGl (or whatever). But you do realize, you already had quite some experience (1 or 2 years) with DirectX, which probably helped out quite a bit.

But I get the point

try opengl first, then when you're done learning the advanced stuff, take a step backwards and learn the simpler GDI.

**aker_y3k** · 11-13-2002

Ok, yes I did have experience. Anyway, I hope I helped, this is what I suggest.

Yes, I haven't used GDI for a long time, and you must be right about double buffering.

**Hunter2** · 11-13-2002

Well, I guess GDI does have its limitations, but I think it's fine for beginners (unless they want to start w/ allegro or sdl, which I hear are fast & easy $h*t

).

**DarkViper** · 11-13-2002

i really wpouldn;t mind the directx SDK from microsoft. just that its so damn big! i love the fact thats its like, the only legally free software he has come out with. direct x is bills finest creation. i couldn;t give a crap about windows. linux is better. i just need to get linux and install it properly.

but allegro will do fine.

it is also for Bloodshed Dev C++ right?

**Hunter2** · 11-13-2002

Go for it!

But in thy haste, my son, forget not that one hath no need to download the GDI; Always it remaineth there, beckoning to those with the will to learn the use of an un-polluted Windows API...

**the gist of a post by someone I can't remember**

Allegro is good for starters, it's fast and easy to learn; but I want to try getting into GDI once I'm done my current project. Once upon a time, I knew how to use the Windows API, but Allegro makes the program revolve around Allegro instead of the API you're working with. But starting with GDI is like trying to learn series before sequences (**or the other way around, can't remember). It doesn't work very well

Heh, so just remember that GDI is still waiting for you!

**DarkViper** · 11-15-2002

meh. ill try it one of these dayz.

nice wise words of wisdom. reminds me of Brave Fencer Musashi.

"Sir musashi! why hath thou cometh hither!"

**Hunter2** · 11-15-2002

I was born to become old.

**DarkViper** · 11-15-2002

you say as you get hit by a drive by shooting

**Hunter2** · 11-16-2002

heh

**DOlson** · 11-17-2002

Originally posted by 4point5
Wow, a month to make a ball show up with DirectX? Maybe you need a book or something...

Well, I think he should actually type the code into an IDE instead of trying to get Microsoft Word to compile it.

Hey Hunter2, Clippy won't always be there to hold your hand.

**Hunter2** · 11-17-2002

Well, I think he should actually type the code into an IDE instead of trying to get Microsoft Word to compile it.

Doubtlessly you've made that mistake in the past, and are simply sharing your experience with me. But, if you look at my sig, perhaps you could figure out what "Compiler/IDE" I use. And BTW, just typing the code into an IDE isn't gonna do the trick, you still gotta get it to compile and link the code...

Hey Hunter2, Clippy won't always be there to hold your hand.

Who's Clippy? Your imaginary friend?

Besides, you might want to check the posting date before you reply. That particular post is several months old, and although you might like to dwell on the past, the rest of us prefer to get on with our lives.

And BTW, it didn't take a month to get the ball to show up; that was an exaggeration. And it wasn't a ball, it was a spaceship. Plus the book I was using had a typo every second page, and tons of redundant code in its examples.

**DOlson** · 11-18-2002

Originally posted by Hunter2
<a bunch of stupid crap here>

Your code has a fatal flaw... I doubt you can outrun a bullet. Is that a fine example of your precious GDI coding?

**DOlson** · 11-18-2002

Originally posted by Hunter2
Besides, you might want to check the posting date before you reply. That particular post is several months old

What date is it?

**TechWins** · 11-18-2002

Hey, DOlson, your posts towards Hunter are completely unneccessary. If you feel like mouthing off to him, then do it in a PM. Nobody else wants to read it, especially not in the game programming forum.