Thread: Why most of the people here on my school prefer this language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by medievalelks
    The sales schtick by the snake oil salesmen of both languages has doubtless led to sloppy, leaking code.
    I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say that it is just a case of where the Law of Leaky Abstractions takes effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat
    1. You actually have a pointer to the memory somewhere that you haven't gotten rid of. Not truly a leak, just bad coding.
    In a way, with a modern OS that reclaims memory when the process is terminated, this would then be true for C and C++ programs as well. "Not truly a leak, just bad coding."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat View Post
    That's been the diametric opposite of my experience; most of the listings I've seen want C# or Java.
    That has been my experience as well.

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    ...or simply can't happen (e.g. memory leaks from failing to destroy objects).
    Memory leaks happen quite often to me in C#, generally when I forget that I'm not in C++, and need to explicitly free some resource. Generally this happens when you beat the GC, and try to access a resource that it hasn't yet free'd - such as reading a file that you recently wrote, and the old file object hasn't yet been garbage collected. The fix is obvious to a C# programmer: I should have free'd it manually by using .Close() or using(). But I'm a C++ programmer - I'm used to stuff deterministically freeing itself when it goes out of scope. :-)

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    GUI work is also fast and incredibly easy in C#. I used to do my GUI work in MFC back in the day, and before that I did pure WINAPI, and C# GUI work is almost a joke it's so simple.
    C# GUI work does make Win32 look incredibly slow, I will admit. However, I still find it incredibly hard to do some basic tasks (have a dialog that is not resizable, but it fitted to it's contents! This was hard in Win32, and subsequently everything else, as Win32 controls have no way to get a bestfit size...)

    I feel like you left out some of the better parts of the language - lambda expressions, a really, really awesome standard library (half of System, including String, regexes, threading, containers, binary file io, and more!)

    I'm a C++ guy. My advice to the OP would be to learn at least C++, if not C or some close language. Knowing memory management is invaluable. I've seen programmers go both ways: C++ to Java/C#, and C#/Java to C++, and the C#/Java programmers coming into C++ generally have the harder time.

    That said, I see a lot of people wanting programmers for C# or Java, and I program primarily in C# for the place I work. (I do a bit of VB6 too - don't shoot me, it's not by choice...)
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