Thread: comparing "1" and "0"

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    Question comparing "1" and "0"

    Apologies if this seems like a silly q, but why do the statements
    cout << ("0" < "1")
    cout << ("1" < "0") both return true?

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    Because you're comparing pointers (to strings) rather than strings.


    Try with
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    #include <string>
    std::string zero = "0";
    std::string one = "1";
    cout << (zero < one);
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    Code:
    	cout << (*"0" < *"1");
    	cout << (*"1" < *"0");

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCow257
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    Code:
    	cout << (*"0" < *"1");
    	cout << (*"1" < *"0");
    Ah, but what about (*"10" < *"11") ?
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    Thankyou all for such quick replies!
    I'm still unclear on exactly how my example was working though.. I'm guessing that I was comparing pointers to both strings and so whatever I have on the left of the operator, the value of that pointer will always be less than that of the right pointer because of the order im putting them in memory? is this right or just rubbish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman
    Thankyou all for such quick replies!
    I'm still unclear on exactly how my example was working though.. I'm guessing that I was comparing pointers to both strings and so whatever I have on the left of the operator, the value of that pointer will always be less than that of the right pointer because of the order im putting them in memory? is this right or just rubbish?
    You are correct in that you've compared the memory addresses of the strings.

    Whether the left or right string gets put in memory at a lower-valued memory location depends on the compiler and its behavior is generally unpredictable.
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    I'm still unclear on exactly how my example was working though.
    Whenever a string literal is encounted in a program(i.e. something between double quotes), the program slaps a '\0' character on the end of the string literal, stores it in memory somewhere, and returns the address. So, the line:

    cout << ("0" < "1")

    becomes:

    cout<<(address of str1 < address of str2);
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    I'm kind of confused too

    What's different with this

    (*"10" < *"11")

    and this

    (*"0" < *"1")

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    *"10";

    <==>

    const char* const c = "10";
    *c;

    <==>

    const char* const c = "10";
    c[0];

    <==>

    '1'

    not 10
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    I think you mean '1', not 1.
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    I'm kind of confused too

    What's different with this

    (*"10" < *"11")

    and this

    (*"0" < *"1")
    Magos??? How about this:
    Code:
    const char* ptr1 = "123456789";
    const char* ptr2 = "1";
    
    cout<<*ptr1<<endl;  //'1'
    cout<<*ptr2<<endl;  //'1'
    Last edited by 7stud; 03-18-2006 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman
    Apologies if this seems like a silly q, but why do the statements
    cout << ("0" < "1")
    cout << ("1" < "0") both return true?
    If that really happens with your compiler then I think it has to do that your compiler doesn't optimize string literals. It propably creates a char array for every literal in you program and doesn't check for duplicates.
    g++ does
    Code:
    # include <iostream>
    # include <iomanip>
    
    using namespace std;
    
    int main() {
        cout << boolalpha;
        cout << "1 < 0 = " << ( "1" < "0" ) << endl;
        cout << "0 < 1 = " << ( "0" < "1" ) << endl;
        return 0;
    }
    my output
    Code:
    1 < 0 = true
    0 < 1 = false
    As far as I know this is implementation defined behavour.
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    As far as I know this is implementation defined behavour.
    It is. Compilers are free to store string literals anywhere, in any order.
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    If you want to compare string literals properly, use strcmp() or strings:
    Code:
    if(strcmp("0", "1") < 0) { /* 0 is < 1 */ }
    string one = "1", two = "2";
    if(one < two) { /* 1 is < 2 */ }
    if(string("11") < string("7")) { /* 11 is < 7 */ }
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