Just had to comment this...Originally Posted by jwenting
Programmers are forced to be with Microsofts products.
I do hate them so much that you can't describe it...
I do call them M$ & Micro$oft.
But I have to use Windows 'cause could I make & compile & ship C++ Win32 programs under *nix based OSes ? don't think so.
And If I don't make programs for Windows my public with decrease with about 70%+.
If I could use Linux for Mac OS X & Win32 programs I'd change instantly to Linux but I can't...
that's total bollox. C++ is an open standard. You can develop nice portable C++ using cross platform libraries and toolkits (boost, wxwidgets, xerces) on linux or mac and then just build a windows version. If you decide to write code using MFC or win32 that's your problem, but don't go blaming microsoft. If you don't like them, fair enough (and there are certainly valid reasons for disliking microsoft), but every time I read M$, I mentally picture a star trek geek screaming "Curse you M$! from my parents basement in wyoming, I stab at thee!" (thanks, penny arcade)
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Chaos, you can develop your program in *nix based with wrapper libiraries.
But can you compile the code for Windows OSes without Windows ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but you'll have make the code & when its done you transfer the code to a "Windows PC" and then compile it and then transfer back.
And if you were to make enterprise appz , would you seriously make it for windows totaly with wrappers?
And without testing it ?
It may be possible to cross compile from a given platform to MS Windows.But can you compile the code for Windows OSes without Windows ?
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If I hated them so much I'd refuse to even use their products to make a living.
There's more than enough jobs out there where you'll never use a Microsoft product at all if you don't want to.
You're just lazy not looking for them and lacking in principle and backbone.
You also show yourself to be just a little kid who never thought for himself but just wants to look like a 1337 k3w1 hax0r by repeating the /. party line.
All things have some good and bad aspects. Nothing is absolute. Microsoft or just for fun Micro$oft has its own good and bad aspects. Anywhere I'll be, if I have the enough money I will buy Windows because I only used Windows and it became a habit (what Microsoft wants).
Quality of Microsoft products is good. But Microsoft strategy is another thing, which I don't want to discuss here.
This thread is not for fighting on Micro$oft. If I write Micro$oft, you write Microsoft and don't get sad. I keep my idea, you keep yours. It is named freedom.
I don't think so. Though, I want to use their products because Microsoft is de facto of standard.There are more than enough jobs out there where you'll never use a Microsoft product at all if you don't want to.
I don't know what 1337... is.
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