I always seem to be one step off (Loop question)

**Scribbler** · 02-16-2005

I hardly think 7stud took the "STFW" or "RTFM" approach, nor did he reply with a "Behold the power of google" response. He simply broke down a piece of logic, explained what happens with an uninitialized variable, and encouraged him to review his textbook.

Giving away answers regardless how simple it is, robs them of a learning experience and stunts development in troubleshooting skills. It also gives away free answers to the next Joe C++ Student that happens along with the same question.

Is it the responsibility of the student to learn and apply themselves? You betcha. But given what I would assume is the purpose of these forums, it's the responsibility of its users to also teach.

**7stud** · 02-16-2005

Originally Posted by major_small

]not helping and just saying 'STFW' or 'RTFM' do not help in any way.

Do you think that is a fair characterization of my post to SquirrelRJ?

Originally Posted by major_small

You should give them the answer

You might want to familiarize yourself with the cboard homework policy:

http://cboard.cprogramming.com/annou...ouncementid=39

**nvoigt** · 02-16-2005

There is no problem in general with helping people on their assignments or homework. After all, everyone here has some sort of homework, only a few here code because they have too much spare time

The important thing is that at one point of time, the beginner asking questions here will be someones assignment partner or coworker. And if he was only presented with complete solutions and did not need to learn on his own, he will make a lousy partner or colleague and most of us would rather see some people fail a test than having to work with a clueless person.

Moral of the story: Don't give out complete solutions, but rather point out the mistakes and what to do to correct them so that at your next job you will only meet people who know what they are doing instead of people who knew how to get answers to a test.

( In my personal oppinion, this thread is fine btw. )

**major_small** · 02-16-2005

Originally Posted by 7stud

You might want to familiarize yourself with the cboard homework policy:

http://cboard.cprogramming.com/annou...ouncementid=39

and you might want to familiarize yourself with my join date and post count... I think by now I know the board guidelines thank you very much...

***kermi3*** · 02-16-2005

Before people get into a large debate on this topic and on homework ethics:

http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=61180

The last couple of pages have some good arguments on them. In particular I think coderbob has some good points - at least that's my opinion.

**major_small** · 02-16-2005

ah, I forgot about that thread... but looky what I found in there:

This message has been deleted by kermi3. Reason: cause i said

***kermi3*** · 02-16-2005

wow, I didn't realize that you all could see the reasons hehe

...that was for mod eyes only

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