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    Quote Originally Posted by NiVaG
    is java 2 black book good? cus i accedently just ordered it
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    I am not laughing at the book, just the fact the you accidentally ordered it. I am laughing with you... with you.
    What is C++?

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    I've never used that book, and how do you order something accidentaly? majority of online stores have you check about a dozen times before you actually complete an order.

    Some java books that I would recommend however: Savitch - "Absolute Java", Horton - "Beginning Java 2" (I have the SDK1.4 version), Liskov - "Program development in Java". The last book is excellent, but you have to have a good understanding of java as it does almost nothing with syntax.

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    >>and is assembly like c++ in any way?
    It's a programming language. The resemblance ends about there It's about as close to machine code as you're going to get, and as it seems to me, knowledge of other programming languages will barely help you at all except for a better grasp of algorithms or whatever. Microsoft Visual C++ does support the use of assembly within your C++ code though, so you can go 'beneath the hood' in your code if you want and you know assembly.
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    lol it is sort of funny, i seriously diddnt mean to.i just finished buying a few c++ books and it did make me check a lot, but then while i was looking at java 2 black book i puched a buy button instead of add to shopping cart, and because i just put in all the information for my last buy it must of used that....


    and what does Visual C++ have to do with C++?

    random spaztic question: have any of you seen the movie tommy boy?
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    >> what does Visual C++ have to do with C++?

    Visual C++ is Microsofts C++ compiler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiVaG
    is java 2 black book good? cus i accedently just ordered it
    Got me. How do you accidentally order a book? But knowing the way programmers name things, a book called the "Black Book" is probably pretty good. This is based off my observations of other books. Namely the OpenGL "Red Book" and the "Blue Book".

    Quote Originally Posted by NiVaG
    and is assembly like c++ in any way?
    Assembly is much more complex than C++. In assembly one command translates into one machine language instruction. In C++ (and C) one command usually translates into many instructions.

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    >>But Java (IMO) is losing popularity.<<

    how the hell do you figure?!
    I definately don't hear much about it anymore, and it seems to be turning obsolete. Once .NET is ported to the more popular operating systems that'll defiantely become more complete. I see a lot more Flash than I do Applets. What say you?

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    whats .net? .NET as in www.? and by flash do you mean of the macromedia varity?


    and whats Applets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean_mackrory
    I definately don't hear much about it anymore, and it seems to be turning obsolete. Once .NET is ported to the more popular operating systems that'll defiantely become more complete. I see a lot more Flash than I do Applets. What say you?
    I couldnt disagree more. Java is growing now even more so than before. Once .NET is ported to the other OS's, it will just be proof of how J2EE is a better solution. Applets are old school, everything can be done server side now in J2EE or by a client app.

    Any language that capitalizes the 'm' in main() is bound to fail *glares at C#*

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    >>I definately don't hear much about it anymore, and it seems to be turning obsolete.<<
    >>What say you?<<

    I say you are completely wrong. If it would "seem" to be turning obsolete, they would not just release a new version. You don't hear about it?? what about ALL the schools turning their curriculum away from c++ and towards java...

    Java is soooooo much more than internet applets... I suggest sean (as friend to friend, and because of that I won't use strong words ) that you do some research about java before you open up your mouth again.

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    >>whats .net?<<
    c#

    >>and by flash do you mean of the macromedia varity?<<
    is there any other?

    >>and whats Applets?<<
    have you ever played pool or chess on yahoo? well, that is a java applet.

    some entropy with that sink? entropysink.com

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    i want java to die

    not that im against it or anything
    or want to put it down, but it should
    prolly die, at least hopefully real soon

    just die ok java. thanks

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    can you support your opinion? why do you want it to "die"?

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    And for the record, after an IM conversation with axon, I have (for the most part) changed my opinion. I think Java is still popular and useful to know, but I still maintain that .NET is gonna be way better...

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    if .net is going to be better, then shouldent I learn .net instead of java after c++?
    Last edited by NiVaG; 09-25-2004 at 09:28 PM.

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