Thread: Im A C++ Newb Looking For Answers

  1. #1
    james bolton
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    1

    Post Im A C++ Newb Looking For Answers

    hey, im new to c++ and im looking for a few answers befoer i try to get in depth into the language.

    my first question is: are visual c++ and C++ (general) the same language??

    and can you make windows programs (like with visual basic) with visual c++ or regular c++????

    please answer these questions and keep in mind im new to all this stuff and trying to learn.

  2. #2
    Sweet
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Tucson, Arizona
    Posts
    1,820
    Visual C++ Supports All Of C++ But Has Some Non Standard Functions Also.

    Visual C++ Is C++ but C++ Is Not Visual C++ Get it?

    Yes You Can Make Windows Apps With C++ Using Either Win32 API, and If Ya Have Microsoft VC++ You Can Use MFC

    And If You Don't Want To Spend Money On A Complier(like me )
    check this one out www.bloodshed.net it supports making win32 programs

    Oh And BTW a good win32 tutorial www.winprog.org/tutorial/
    Last edited by prog-bman; 05-03-2004 at 03:43 AM.

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    167
    Visual C++ is microsoft's implementation of the C++ language which means that its a compiler for the C++ language. There are a lot of other compilers for C++ available also. With vb6 you design applications by using the form designer and placing controls on a form but with visual c++ you have to write the code yourself. To create GUI windows programs with C++ you will need to use a library or something since C++ doesn't have built in support for that.

    And If You Don't Want To Spend Money On A Complier(like me )
    check this one out www.bloodshed.net it supports making win32 programs
    As far as free IDEs/compilers go, I prefer Borland's C++BuilderX. The personal edition is available for free at the website. With it you can either you mingw that dev-c++ uses or their c++ compiler. There's also a linux version available.
    silk.odyssey

  4. #4
    Registered User major_small's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    2,787
    I prefer Dev-C++

    if you're just starting out with C++, don't worry about creating windows stuff just yet... first get down the basics and learn the language, then move to windows programming
    Join is in our Unofficial Cprog IRC channel
    Server: irc.phoenixradio.org
    Channel: #Tech


    Team Cprog Folding@Home: Team #43476
    Download it Here
    Detailed Stats Here
    More Detailed Stats
    52 Members so far, are YOU a member?
    Current team score: 1223226 (ranked 374 of 45152)

    The CBoard team is doing better than 99.16% of the other teams
    Top 5 Members: Xterria(518175), pianorain(118517), Bennet(64957), JaWiB(55610), alphaoide(44374)

    Last Updated on: Wed, 30 Aug, 2006 @ 2:30 PM EDT

  5. #5
    sockets mad
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    126
    I would deffinately agree with major_small. Writing GUI windows apps is significantly more difficult than just learning the basics of the language.

    'C++' is a language standard. 'Microsoft Visual C++' is Microsoft's set of development tools for programming in the C++ language, it's not a seperate language in itself. Which set of development tools you use is completely up to you. As others have said, there are both free and commerical alternatives.

    Try to keep away from the idea of 'relugar C++' as there is no real regular C++, it's just a standard which many different companies have written tools for.

    -dan
    C/C++ Support IRC Channel

    Server: irc.dal.net Channel: #csupport

    Come along and help make it a great resource for the community.

  6. #6
    sockets mad
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    126
    One last tip.

    You can't beat a good beginners book =)
    C/C++ Support IRC Channel

    Server: irc.dal.net Channel: #csupport

    Come along and help make it a great resource for the community.

  7. #7
    l'Anziano DavidP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Plano, Texas, United States
    Posts
    2,743
    >Visual C++ Is C++ but C++ Is Not Visual C++ Get it?

    hmmm....i get what you are trying to say, but in truth it should be the other way around.

    because all standard C++ works with the Visual C++ compiler, therefore C++ is Visual C++.

    However, not all Visual C++ extended keywords and library functions work with standard C++, therefore your statement should be the other way around....

    or maybe it should be something like this...

    in the following relation, do not think of <= and >= as comparison operators, but rather think of >= and <= as superset and subset operators.

    Visual C++ >= C++
    C++ <= Visual C++
    My Website

    "Circular logic is good because it is."

Popular pages Recent additions subscribe to a feed

Similar Threads

  1. Newb Question Character Counting
    By Wilder in forum C Programming
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-22-2008, 11:37 PM
  2. Dogpile the newb!
    By lindy in forum A Brief History of Cprogramming.com
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-23-2008, 08:17 AM
  3. Total newb directx invisable geometry question
    By -pete- in forum Game Programming
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-13-2006, 01:45 PM
  4. Newb C++ Programmer
    By Philandrew in forum C++ Programming
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 10-19-2004, 08:44 PM
  5. if your not newb you can help me
    By Klinerr1 in forum C++ Programming
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-05-2002, 12:09 AM