Thread: Visual C++ and C++, does it really differ?

Hi,
I am a newbie and never programmed ever before.
I did checked the books recommendations mentioned here and here.
a relative of mine passed away since a while, and his family just give his library to my mother.
My mother knows that I like computers and internet, so she thought these books will be in a good use for me.
When I checked these books, I found it from mid nineties till 2001.
Most of them about C++, but it is written Visual C++.
It is about 40 or 50 books that has visual C++ in the title (I have that impression that this man was a collector or something), and most of the books have several pages like 900+ or 1300+ etc...
Also most publishers no longer exists, I mean when I checked the internet and amazon I found publishers like Que no longer exist.
Most of the books from Que, Wrox, SAMs.
So my question is ... long-story-short, can I study from these books?
If it is YES, then it will be a huge saving, plus that I in love with any old book, I smell its papers and like its touch (yes I know, most of the people who know me thinking that I am crazy about books), so reading these old books will be a pleasure for me.
But I do not know if it is right or wrong to do so, especially that I never programmed before but just above average user for computers and internet (of course my mother things I am the next bill gates).
When I opened the books, I've found most of them talking about programming for windows.
So please recommend for what I should do.
So please if someone may be patience with me and till the differences between C++ and Visual C++, that would be awesome.
Another issue, is that I will study from books, if these books are old then I will have to buy new current books, which will cost a lot because I hate electronic books.
Please advise.
Note: I've a valid visual studio enterprise 2017 license from my college, but never used it ever before, just got it with an education key for windows 10 from college as well. I am just using the windows key.

Originally Posted by rokiloc

plus that I in love with any old book, I smell its papers and like its touch (yes I know, most of the people who know me thinking that I am crazy about books), so reading these old books will be a pleasure for me.

Same here. I love the smell of old books too! I also love understanding things written in old books, almost feels like I'm uncovering an old secret or something

C++ is a language that as far as I know is independent of any particular tool used to manipulate it. So Visual C++ is an IDE. Just like Code::Blocks is an IDE and so on.

An IDE means Integrated Development Environment (I think). A fancy name for an editor. Most likely the Visual C++ books you have refer to code compiled in Visual Studio which is an IDE you can download online.

Warning though, C++ has undergone many changes in recent years so some of the information in your old books may be out of date but I would imagine the code will still work and the books will still teach you about C++ and coding. Eventually though you'll want maybe just one more up to date book

I've to admit that most what you both said I have no idea about except very few things.
The reason for choosing C++ was that I read in several places that it is a very good source to learn programming basics, then I can continue with C#.
The reason for choosing C# was not my pure decision but it was just a recommendations I've come through reading many articles on the web.
What I want to do from programming is to make applications and sell it online.
According to what you both said, I can say that I've no idea what shall I do, but I felt lost after reading your replies.
After reading your words, I've realized that I keep repeating what I read online without understanding it correctly, which is really turned on to be a very stupid and dumb thing.
I felt very depressed after reading your replies and somehow about to cry, not because of you but because of my situation.
What would be the right way?
I want to invest the time and effort but do not know what to do exactly.

Get a beginner's book on C++ or as Salem suggested Python.

Python Programming for Beginners: The Complete Guide to Mastering Python in 7 Days with Hands-On Exercises – Top Secret Coding Tips to Get an Unfair Advantage and Land Your Dream Job!: Amazon.co.uk: Robbins, Philip: 9798376161821: Books

When you've understood more about coding you can eventually come back to your old books and they will make more sense. You'll understand it eventually if you persist with learning (even when it gets depressing - which it sometimes does).

I feel defeated if I moved away from C++, I surrendered many things in my life, and each time I did I was the only loser, and always telling myself to do not repeat the surrender once again next time. So I want to continue what I want to achieve to help myself (sorry to bother you with my issues, but just speak the truth, so I can get a real better help instead of telling bla bla lies).
The reason for telling my details is that I checked a lot of websites and forums, and this is the only place where I felt there is a real people really answering real questions.

- later on edit -
I do not mind to buy new books, and I am not persist to use the old books I've. I will do what

Originally Posted by rokiloc

After reading your words, I've realized that I keep repeating what I read online without understanding it correctly, which is really turned out to be a very stupid and dumb thing.

Also you might want to note, that's a good start to programming. At least you realize repeating things you read online is a bad idea. Coding is quite a real profession, rather like a builder or crafter. You need to actually understand and make things. It's not a corporate type profession where you can get away with bull ........ and management speak.

So in a way you've kinda already learned something

Originally Posted by rokiloc

I feel defeated if I moved away from C++, I surrendered many things in my life, and each time I did I was the only loser, and always telling myself to do not repeat the surrender once again next time.

That's excessively principled and whilst it may be the case in your real life, it's certainly not happening here. You can just go and learn Python and then come back to C++ with your old books anytime you want. No one is taking anything off you here. For your information the book I use for learning Windows stuff (and I'm still mostly a n00b myself with windows and C++) goes back to 1998.

It's no shame or bad idea at all to go learn an easier language and then come back to a harder one when you have more competency with code.