Thread: C++ Help and taking decisions.

  1. 12-23-2014 #1
    Khaled Mohammad
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    C++ Help and taking decisions.

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    I am in problem again you are the best community who atleast reads my problem and helps me out...

    Ok,
    I have learnt C and still learning new things...Now I am learning the basics of C++....But all of the courses only shows CLI stuff...I have heard of frameworks like QT and other stuff...But I don't think professional softwares like Adobe uses them...Do they? If they do where can Learn those stuff..ALl the courses about C++ stuff are very simple things which I have already learnt completely in C very well..Now I want to make GUI softwares and coustom looking softwares(like trianges and stuff and my own buttons) and softwares which can even interect with the OS and manipulate things bascially any type of software on multiple OSs...I want to learn this stuff and please be honest and recommend me where to learn this stuff...Videos courses will be great..Please but I want to learn all those stuff,I know it is going to take alot of time but I am willing to give that..I want to have complete control over my software...

    I want to earn some money too through freelancing so if you can suggest me what to learn for that too for freelancer sites like (freelancer.com,odesk.com)

    So basically I want the whole package so I can do pretty much all the cool stuff.. I know I am talking like a person who wants everything but man I know people who actually have this ability but they couldn't suggest me anything but you guys are my only hope

    Best Regards.
  2. 12-23-2014 #2
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    I can NOT help you with this; but, I can point out something that newbies sometimes miss.

    Which is the difference between Graphics libraries and Widget tool-kits.

    Normally Widget tool-kits contains or requires a Graphics library to work.
    I suggest reading the Wiki links below for more info.


    Graphics library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Widget toolkit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    A word from the wise - you'll never learn it all, not by a long shot.

    You have to learn to specialise to some extent.

    There are a number of core skills which are independent of any programming language or toolkit. These are the skills that allow you to figure out what a customer wants (even when they've only got the vaguest idea of what 'it' is), and from that produce a coherent design and implementation that will meet the customers needs.

    If you can't do these things, you'll only ever be a code monkey in a cubicle farm, being given small morsels of programming tasks to work on.

    Search for "cross-platform GUI toolkits". Try half a dozen, but stick to learning one (or two) extremely well, and perhaps one (or two) with some familiarity.

    > so if you can suggest me what to learn for that too for freelancer sites like (freelancer.com,odesk.com)
    I suggest you do a lot of lurking to see what is going on.
    More importantly, spot trends. Done well, you can position yourself at the front of the next 'hot' thing, and write your own paychecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaled Mohammad View Post
    ...ALl the courses about C++ stuff are very simple things which I have already learnt completely in C very well...
    If that's the case, then you haven't learned C+ very well. C++ is very different from C and if you can equate those two language based on what you've learned about C++, then you've gone about it the completely wrong way.
    The "right" way is to forget C ever existed and use a good C++ book that teaches C++ without the C subset. If you haven't learned C++ properly, then there is no point in advancing towards frameworks and other stuff. Get the basics down first, and that's usually why tutorials and books uses CLI--because there is no easy-to-use C++ GUI Framework that does not introduce lots of extra fluff that deters from the basics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    If that's the case, then you haven't learned C+ very well. C++ is very different from C and if you can equate those two language based on what you've learned about C++, then you've gone about it the completely wrong way.
    The "right" way is to forget C ever existed and use a good C++ book that teaches C++ without the C subset. If you haven't learned C++ properly, then there is no point in advancing towards frameworks and other stuff. Get the basics down first, and that's usually why tutorials and books uses CLI--because there is no easy-to-use C++ GUI Framework that does not introduce lots of extra fluff that deters from the basics.

    Thanks you for your answers...But bro what is your suggestion then? What should I do now? Where should I learn from then? I don't like reading books very much but a video series will be cool with loads of exercises

    I am learning from here : Programming C++ Training Video, C++ Online Tutorial

    But it doesn't have much exercises and stuff....So if you have any recommendation
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    Sorry, but a good introductionary book is the best way to go about getting the basics down. Videos and tutorials and articles are mostly for when you've got a good grasp on the basics and want to expand your knowledge about some other topics.
    I'd start you should start with Accelerated C++.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.
  7. 01-03-2015 #7
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    Lol "bro". Ha.

    Anyway, if you know what you want to learn, then go out and learn it? If you wanna make GUIs, just google : how to make a gui in C++

    And then come back here with questions. Who needs books? They're bad for the environment.
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    Who needs books? They're bad for the environment.
    O_o

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