Thread: Easier Ways of Writing an Average Calculation Program?

Originally Posted by laserlight

So can std::array, I believe, since it is pretty much a thin wrapper over built-in (or C-style, if you prefer) arrays.

For some of std::array's operations (or member functions) that is true. For some operations it is debatable. For example, .at() does not necessarily qualify as a "thin wrapper" since it does error checking and can throw exceptions, which are not behaviours associated with a built-in array (to use your description, because I'm not looking to get into a C versus C++ debate over a feature that is in both languages). It is also implementation-defined whether such functions are inlined (functions that are not inlined often carry overheads, such as overheads of function calls).

I'm not incidentally arguing that std::array should not be used. Just like any other comparable capability of the language, it is an option for consideration - I do balk at the repeated assertion that it should be the first choice of one.

Originally Posted by grumpy

I did not object to your mentioning C++11's array. I even noted in a reply to you it is a valid alternative.

I did object to your characterising C's array as "mine" because I correctly interpreted (given some of your subsequent comments) you were intending that to belittle the information I gave.

Technically, the information I gave is as correct as yours - in fact, more so, because you used a term llike deprecate (which has a specific meaning in all C++ standards, including C++11).

The difference is that you insist of advocating C++-11 features, and belittling anyone who mentions anything else. Given that, in this thread, you turned that belittling behaviour on me, personally, I feel entitled to be resentful.

I did not belittle you, or anyone else. I did not belittle any information stated thus far, either. I mentioned an alternative, nothing else. Had I intended to belittle anything, I would have pitted std::array against C arrays in my first reply. I didn't, because that was not my intention.
I have mentioned this before, but I do not generally go against wishes of others who reply in the thread unless I really deem them wrong. The same applies here. I do not think you are wrong, but I do think you left out something useful. Hence, I added that.
If you feel resentful or belittled, then access my apologies, because once again, it was not my intention.

I still stick to my belief that std::array is the future. It may be more difficult to use, sure, but all in good time.
I find it better to mention these newer features to newbies so that they will understand and use them. IMHO, it is better for a newbie to ask - why are you using C arrays instead of std::array instead of simply accepting C arrays as the only alternative.

/me signing out.

@grumpy, post #28, excellent, enjoyed reading