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    Beginer has outdated programs & questions

    I bought 2 learning kits years ago, they are actually versions for windows 95, NT and 3.1. They are from SAMS publishing Teach yourself C, C and C++ made easy and Visual C++ made easy both came with books and software. My 1st ? would it be risky to try and install them in the 1st place with them being that old, would there be compatibility issues? My laptop running XP Pro and 2nd ? are they so out dated that I would be hurting myself in the long run trying to learn from them. Sorry for such a long drawn out request especially when I don't even know if the product codes will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randyk View Post
    I bought 2 learning kits years ago, they are actually versions for windows 95, NT and 3.1. They are from SAMS publishing Teach yourself C, C and C++ made easy and Visual C++ made easy both came with books and software. My 1st ? would it be risky to try and install them in the 1st place with them being that old, would there be compatibility issues? My laptop running XP Pro and 2nd ? are they so out dated that I would be hurting myself in the long run trying to learn from them. Sorry for such a long drawn out request especially when I don't even know if the product codes will work.
    Thanks for your patience
    Randyk
    Well, you can get the latest tools for free on the web.
    Gather a basic knowledge about modern C++ from online tutorials.
    After that turn..turn to your *old* books...taking in only parts which you *can* use.
    (Then get another good book..like..Accelerated C++....and you'll be able to understand why it is preferable to skip learning C++ instead of C with classes..) ...You should..skip step 3 if you can, though.

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    Modern compilers to choose from.
    Free Developer Tools - Visual Studio 2010 Express | Microsoft Visual Studio
    smorgasbordet - Pelles C
    Code::Blocks

    If you've got the patience and space, install all of them.
    If your code works the same on three different compilers, then you're on pretty solid ground.

    Modern book list for learning C++.
    http://rudbek.com/books.html
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    Thanks for your replies, I found out I have Visual Studio 2008 Standard installed already and i installed code blocks. trying to use the book I have is a little trying. Can't tell if I'm executing exercise right answers are all on CD and I can't find the appendix on the cd so I'll start here and see where it goes

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    I recommend minimum Visual Studio 2010 (if you use Visual Studio).
    Or you can use latest Code::Blocks with MinGW.
    That lets you use some of the newest features in C++11.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adak View Post
    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

    Outside of your DOS world, your header file is meaningless.

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