Anyway, about living without tooltips and intellisense, what is so wrong with not wanting to use them after you learn most of what it has to say. I am a not perfect but "very careful" when writing code. After learning C++ the C++ way, you already know I'm going full blast in-line ASM and tooltips or intellisense could ever make since of what I'll be coding and if it could I don't need it making any suggesting that I use xor eax,eax instead of mov eax, 1. Not all C++ programs has it anyway and people been doing fine with-out it to date, I'm sure. As I said, there is nothing like going down to the pits. You quickly learn how to build it back up to the point you need while learning some new tricks along the way. That's when you can say "I know why that happen" and the debugger never had a clue. "ERROR: Unknown." That is not a crime. It can be big FUN, but don't expect no help from the OS or IDE. They might be ......... heehee