Thread: VC express 2008

  1. 07-30-2009 #1
    rikroll
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    VC express 2008

    Hi there,

    What do yuo think of VC express 2008, or basically VC 2008, i am no expert in C++ or VS but as far as i can see you can either use it as a .NET application(CLR) or a standard C++ application??

    Any other comments on it, dependencies etc..?
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    What kind of opinion are you asking for?
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    That's what I use for C++ on Windows.
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    I use GCC everywhere with a good text-editor like gedit, but VS can be OK if you set it up to standard C++, I don't know why you would use it though when there's better alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tux0r View Post
    ...but VS can be OK if you set it up to standard C++, I don't know why you would use it though when there's better alternatives.
    ...Wait, what?
    First off, VS2008 does follow the C++ standard with no "set up" required. It has a few extensions, but what compiler doesn't?
    And about the whole "better alternatives" part - that is YOUR opinion. There is no fact that it is inferior to other alternatives. In fact, it's actually a highly RECOMMENDED IDE.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tux0r View Post
    I use GCC everywhere with a good text-editor like gedit, but VS can be OK if you set it up to standard C++, I don't know why you would use it though when there's better alternatives.
    Are you joking ?
    VS.NET 2008 is 10* better than anything else nowadays !
    All Big Companies have only VS licences. (we are not anymore in 90's with VC++ 1.52...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex31
    VS.NET 2008 is 10* better than anything else nowadays !
    You should substantiate your statement such that you compare the alternatives and show that your comparison metrics really do result in a factor of ten difference compared to the next best. Otherwise, you should merely state that in your opinion it is the best. You also should state what exactly you mean by "VS.NET 2008", especially since rikroll's question is not clear whether it is the compiler or the IDE that is in question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex31
    All Big Companies have only VS licences.
    The combination of "all" and "only" means that it is quite easy to prove that your assertion is false.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjarne Stroustrup (2000-10-14)
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