Thread: C or Java ? Pleas help meee ...

Originally Posted by ssharish2005

I would rather suggest its upto OP decision on which ever langauge he is comfortable . He should go along with that.

Well it sounds like he hasn't done any programming yet, so that's why he's asking us.
Based on what he wants to do, it sounds like it would be a LOT less painful to do in Java than in C (just like most things).

You can still do all the "C basics" in Java, just using different syntax. System.out.println() instead of printf()... So why not learn it on Java first, so he doesn't have to re-learn it all when he moves from C to Java?
If you're going to program in C++ then I'd probably recommend learning the basics of C first. But Java & C are quite different from one another, so unless you're planning on using both languages, there's no point in learning them both.

I learned C first, then C++ & Java, but I don't think it would have mattered which order I learned them in.

i learnt C++ then VB then C# then J2SE, then J2ME then C, i would say C is harder than any of those

Originally Posted by Alander

i learnt C++ then VB then C# then J2SE, then J2ME then C, i would say C is harder than any of those

Is there a difference between J2SE and J2ME (or J2EE or J???). I just call it all Java, but I haven't really done a whole lot of programming in Java.

Thanks, I know what they stand for, but what's different about how you use them? Is it just some extra or fewer Java library classes, or is there any difference in the language itself?

Thank you all for your responses, I really appreciate that.

Originally Posted by Jamkirk

im pretty bad at maths, but i love programming, i suppose its a handy thing to have but programming is mostly logic. you'll pick up algorithms as you learn, i program in c, hence why im posting here lol... ive never used java.

What do you program in C ? database? networking? games, .. ? does it take a lot of time?

Originally Posted by t3chn0n3rd

Code:

/*  A simple C program*/
#include<stdio.h>
int main()
{
printf("Hello to C forum");
}

Thank you very mucht, I can understand you that you welcome me to the forum using that code of C language but the compiler of C can't understand you, because you forget ; and #

Originally Posted by MacGyver

Hello world, compliant with both C89 and C99 would be as follows:

Code:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
	printf("Hello, world!\n");
	return 0;
}

In Java it would be as follows:

Code:

public class HelloWorld
{
	public static void main(String a_szArgs[])
	{
		System.out.println("Hello, world!");
	}
}

Both languages have their purposes. Asking on a C forum is going to get you answers to learn C, unless they don't want you in the ranks of C programmers.

And yes, you need some skill in math. Basic high school algebra is generally sufficient to get started and do quite a few things while learning the language.

The difference I see in that code is the C languge is compact!

Originally Posted by Perspective

I'd go with Java, it has more standard library support for the things you're trying to do, and is probably easier to use since you don't have to worry about memory management.

(Not that C doesn't have libraries for this stuff, but you'll have to hunt them down and figure out how to use them, and there are really no standards for design or coding style so each one can be different. This is one thing that Java really got right.)

What does that mean, "I don't have to worry about memory management" and why not in Java ?

Can you pleans give me an example and tell me which libraries you are talking about ?
In Java you have for example imports java.sql.*; don't you have this in C ?

Originally Posted by Elysia

C vs Java isn't that fair a comparison, is it? Maybe it would be fairer to compare C++ vs Java. If it's C vs Java, Java is probably better.

I don't like the syntax of C++ like cin>> and cout<< but they are both OO.

Originally Posted by Bubba

Asking this on a C board is nutso. Use whatever language is the best tool for the job. If you cannot figure that out on your own then perhaps neither language is appropriate for you.

Forget your project and just learn to program in a language. Then you can start determining how you want to utilize the language for your project. You are kind of trying to run before you can even walk.

You right, but I said in the future after mounths or one year of learling the basics ..

Originally Posted by Elysia

Unless we go by the "use the right tool for the job" analogy, in which case Java might be better.
Still, one could just learn both of them, since they both have advantages/disadvantages and get the best of both worlds. Especially in case you'd want to do something else than web a little later on or once in a while.

What are those advantages and disadvantages?
I want in the future my project runnig all free, I want to use free compiler, ide, dbms, os, .. everything except hardware

Originally Posted by cpjust

Given the choice between C & Java, I'd have to go with Java, even though it is the ugly step-child of C... Also, from what I see on Monster.ca and other job sites, I'd say you'd be a lot more employable learning Java.

Oh that one!! yes thanks ..

Originally Posted by ssharish2005

I would rather suggest its upto OP decision on which ever langauge he is comfortable . He should go along with that.

@OP: Question your self which language i am more comfortable with? If you can get the asnwer for that u wouldn't be think so much. By the time you get the right suggestion from other people, u might have finished your software developement.

ssharish

Yes I am going to learn the basics of programming in C like:
variables, constants, expressions, statements, declarations, data types, chars and arrays of chars (Strings), iterations using while and do while, slections with if and else and switch case, arrays, functions, ... that menas I will attack you with questions on this forum hhhh

Thanks

Yes, in Java there is applet like this: http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/apple...st2/index.html
and they are indeed web-oriented but in java you can programm applications as well.