Thread: Prelude (Java)

>I was just wondering why the coding contests seem to be held
>in Java, rather than C or another language?

Contests? I think I missed something.

I don't know why one would held contests in Java instead of a different language. But perhaps it's because Java is a hype and many people know Java. When I left university the first year students learned Java as their first language. Or perhaps companies want to stimulate people learning Java so they can choose the best Java-programmers for their company.

Hi Shiro,
You might want to look at the TopCoder website at:
http://www.topcoder.com/
Thanks for your answer.

Isn't Java wonderful !!!

All those wonderful dots.

this.that.and.EveryPossible.ThingYouCan(ThrowIn).T oMake(TheSourceCode).CompletelyUnWieldy

Check out the link, I found it quite amusing:

I got my adrenaline going over coding.



And if I am lucky, I might be able to write some asm code after dinner. That really gets the adrenaline flowing.

Originally posted by Prelude
I don't find the syntax intuitive, with C, C++, C#, COBOL, etc.., I can look at the code and it will make some sense. I can follow the flow of control easily and guess what will happen when the program is run. Java isn't like that for some reason, I look at the code and find myself saying "what?". I'm probably just weird, but that's how it is.

That makes no sense. C# code and true OO C++ code resemble Java very much so. Trust me, the problem isn't the language. It's the person using it.

From now on I'm going to use UML to design software programs. That way I can use any language I want and only have to make changes in the implementation model views.

Those companies used Java in ways it shouldn't be used then. Do you use Java to write an application such as Word, no. It's for backend work, networking, and things such as that. Also, they will not change the way Java works at the core. That would be suicide.

Originally posted by AMDPwred
Those companies used Java in ways it shouldn't be used then. Do you use Java to write an application such as Word, no. It's for backend work, networking, and things such as that. Also, they will not change the way Java works at the core. That would be suicide.

Why do you think they used it that way, Sun Microsystems told them that it would work.

They better commit suicide.

One neat thing Sun could do with java would be to have 3 compile options. One for 80*86 that use asm. One for the JVM as they do now. And one for the .NET frame. That would put them in a really strong position.

Originally posted by Barjor
One neat thing Sun could do with java would be to have 3 compile options. One for 80*86 that use asm. One for the JVM as they do now. And one for the .NET frame. That would put them in a really strong position.

That is a pretty good idea, they got to do something with it, or the end is near.

From now on I'm going to use UML to design software programs. That way I can
use any language I want and only have to make changes in the implementation
model views.

Not a bad choice. UML is the standard design language in OO these days.

Those companies used Java in ways it shouldn't be used then.

I agree with this. Those companies have choosen the wrong language for their projects. That they made such big losses is not because of Java, but of making a bad decision.

Why do you think they used it that way, Sun Microsystems told them that it would work.

Then Sun did bad. I guess that if they had evaluated the projects of those companies well, they would suggest using a different language...but ofcourse Sun wants others to use their product. ;-)

One neat thing Sun could do with java would be to have 3 compile options.

Don't you loose the aspect of platform independence? If I understand you correctly, you want Java to be compiled for several platforms. The platforms you mention, are just a very few. So you would need many many more options. And the purpose of Java was to be platform independent, wasn't it?

That is a pretty good idea, they got to do something with it, or the end is near.

Why? There are a lot of applications where you can use Java very well. When looking around in industry I see a lot of applications being created with C++ at lowlevel and Java at higher level. For example, a car manufacturer is creating an infotainment system for their cars. At low level they use C++ (and lower level languages) and for the higher level applications Java. So this illustrates very well that you should not hang on just one language. A combination of languages will be far more efficient then trying to develop everything in just one language.