Thread: C programming with MAX MSP

Originally Posted by astroboom

I've created an array which contains a selection of note numbers, but i' m very stuck on how to make it all fit together.

This is very ambiguous IMO.

If all you have is the array with the selection of note numbers -- about 3 lines of code -- then you do not have an "all" to fit together. You just have an array. In that case, you need to think about how "a random number is selected from an array" and what "outputs the note number and plays back".

But I'm guessing you have more than just a few lines defining an array. In that case, post some code and ask a more specific question.

Or links to where we can find out more information.

Like for example, what a "Max MSP" is?

Originally Posted by astroboom

This is what i have so far, i've been trying really hard to create it. Im doing it for a music assignment, and it needs to be almost organized randomness, much like Mozart's dice music, or the 12 note row by Schoenberg or whatever.

Thanks,
Arnie

You are still not asking any specific questions.

Max MSP looks like interesting software with a probably complex API. What have you done with it so far?

You seem to be concerned with the "general concept" of what you are doing. Unfortunately, you probably need someone familiar with the Max MSP API to help with that (there could be cboard regulars who are, but you'll have to wait for them to cruise by); anyone else is just going to throw darts.

On the other hand, if you can describe your problem in terms that are not specific to the API, or at least describing the relevant aspects of it, you might get some help. That might mean you have to put together a few descriptive paragraphs going into detail and referring to your code.

Originally Posted by astroboom

Would it be easier for me to name the idea behind what i need? for example i need to have a section of code in C which would perform the same operation as a tempo controller ?

Altho it's not in the standard, most C libraries have a nanosleep() function you could use to create rhythms. But I would bet your high-level API (Max MSP) already has something.

CommonTater pointed to some tutorials. Have you looked at those?

Basically, when you are approaching a new API (Application Programming Interface), you are going to have to do some preliminary experimentation with it -- writing simple programs that use the API to do one, simple thing -- before you try and use it for a serious project. This may sound like it takes more time, but in the end you will probably save yourself some, because you will know what you are doing when you finally tackle the project. Also, it can make the difference between something that works, and something that is a hopeless mess, meaning most of the time spent doing it was wasted. Of course, sometimes you do have to learn the wrong way by doing it, but it is always preferable and much more efficient to just learn the right way

"Normal" API documentation, in the form of function references and class hierarchies, can be very frustrating and confusing to new programmers, certainly it was to me. Eventually, it starts to make sense why they are the way they are. Tutorials, if available, are usually the best starting point.

Originally Posted by MK27

Altho it's not in the standard, most C libraries have a nanosleep() function you could use to create rhythms. But I would bet your high-level API (Max MSP) already has something.

CommonTater pointed to some tutorials. Have you looked at those?

MIDI programming is an interresting challenge... MIDI music is not a waveform, it's an abstraction of the old "roll player" piano... It's driven by "Events" (Command packets sent to a controller) you give it a note number, a loudnes and a duration, it then adds this "event" to it's queue and plays the notes in the order received. In a MIDI (*.mid) file all you have is a series of MIDI events( control signals) and a time index... at the right time hand the packet to the MIDI device. Multiply this by 16 asynchronous channels, each capable of 16 simultaneous notes, and you can do some pretty interesting stuff. There's literally nothing there that even vaguely resembles a waveform until the MIDI device interprets the packet and plays the sound.

But MIDI can do a lot more than play music. It can control events such as lighting, pyrotechnics, mixing boards, even robotics... All done through the same basic Event structure. You know that video "Wizards of Winter" with the guy's front lawn going nuts to the music? Yep, that's MIDI stuff.

Jeff Glatt pretty much wrote the book on this at his brainwashing center... and it's a fascinating read.