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    Advanced pointer use

    I'm reading a book on C and I stumbled upon the following piece of code with advanced pointer use:

    Code:
    int main()
    {
      float (*a)[5];
      int n=3, i, j;
    
      a = (float(*)[5])malloc(n*sizeof(float[5]));
      for(i=0; i < n; i++)
      for(j=0; j < 5; j++) a[i][j] = ...
    According to the book *a is an array of 5 float elements so a is a pointer to an array of 5 float elements. Also, the book says that the n rows are in a sequence. The last remark I can understand, because malloc allocates n*5 float elements. I just don't understand why a is a pointer to an array of 5 float elements. I would think it is an array to n*5 elements. Does anybody see what I'm overlooking here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvanrijnbach
    I just don't understand why a is a pointer to an array of 5 float elements. I would think it is an array to n*5 elements. Does anybody see what I'm overlooking here?
    It just happens to be the syntax of how to declare a pointer to an array. Think about the book's point that *a is the array (although it does not exist until later), thus a is a pointer to an array.

    By the way, you can simplify this:
    Code:
    a = (float(*)[5])malloc(n*sizeof(float[5]));
    to:
    Code:
    a = malloc(n * sizeof(*a));
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    You are creating a two dimensional array. You know one dimension in your initialization (5). For every element of your original a you are allocating another n size array of which you return the address. So you are actually working with pointers to pointers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxden
    You know one dimension in your initialization (5). For every element of your original a you are allocating another n size array of which you return the address.
    Not quite. It is more like space is allocated for n arrays of 5 floats, and a points to the first of these n arrays.

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    So you are actually working with pointers to pointers.
    No, pointer to an array, not pointer to a pointer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    Not quite. It is more like space is allocated for n arrays of 5 floats, and a points to the first of these n arrays.


    No, pointer to an array, not pointer to a pointer.
    The name of an array is a pointer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxden
    The name of an array is a pointer?
    Nope. In many contexts, an array is converted to a pointer to its first element. That would be so for a[i], but then it would not be correct to try and pass a where a float** is required.
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    Yes, I am not sure if this is what laserlight was referring to, but the subject of pointer declarations and dereferencing is often a criticized design choice in C.

    A lot of beginners are confused by a similar notation that means two different things: when you define a pointer:

    Code:
    int *p;
    ;

    The SYMBOL * just identifies the fact that p is a pointer to type int.

    Code:
    *p = 5;
    Later on in the code if you do this, you are saying "write to the address pointed by p the value 5".

    What helped me greatly when learning C was my teacher always asking me what a pointer is when I got confused. The answer was always : "A POINTER IS AN ADDRESS".

    In your case:
    Code:
    float (*a)[5];
    *a identifies that a is a pointer (because it is a definition).
    (i.e. an address to a type float [5], so to an array of 5 floats, which are obviously stored consecutively in memory because that's what an array does).
    Last edited by claudiu; 03-03-2010 at 02:24 PM.

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    Perhaps this will help. The data is stored exactly as if one had done this:
    Code:
    typedef struct foo {
        float bar[5];
    };
    
    struct foo *a;
    The only difference is that instead of having to write
    Code:
    a[i].bar[j]
    you can omit 'bar' and just write
    Code:
    a[i][j]
    As you can see, 'a' can point to some number of items that each contain 5 floats. You can also see from such a definition that this is not compatible with float** because there is no double-pointer involved.
    Just to reiterate, the second dimension is not a pointer, it is the array itself, with a defined size.
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    Precisely. The book didn't mention pointer-to-pointers and (*a)[5] is not an array of 5 pointers, which is what I thought at first.

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