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    I'm not giving up but I am looking for some success stories to motivate me.
    40 yrs old, started C 1.5 months ago w/books recommended by these forums.
    Trying to nurture this interest into a passion.
    cheers.

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    If you do not feel motivated to learn, then it can be quite hard to learn something [whatever it may be].

    One way to get motivated is to have a goal that you really want to achieve (that is short-term enough that you don't think "I'll never get there"). I can't really tell you what that goal should be, since I don't know you as a person.

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    The more I do C, more machine-like i become. At some point it starts to feel like some kind of assembly, so you start thinking/behaving like machine. And i heard there's no way back...

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    When I learned pointers for the first time, I was thoroughly confused by the syntax. My remedy for this was putting * absolutely everywhere, since reading that part my book several times didn't seem to give me a eureka moment.

    It's really frustrating when you just want something simple like an array of integers. Well, avoiding the rest of a boring story, I went from total confusion to functional thanks to my compiler and the compassion of strangers. I felt satisfied understanding something supposedly difficult, and finally wrote that stupid program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizen View Post
    It's really frustrating when you just want something simple like an array of integers. Well, avoiding the rest of a boring story, I went from total confusion to functional thanks to my compiler and the compassion of strangers. I felt satisfied understanding something supposedly difficult, and finally wrote that stupid program.
    Well, this is the unfortunate nature of C. It's so close to the hardware.
    Although C++ simplifies this to a great extent while still remaining close to the hardware. Although C++ is bigger. Much, much bigger than C.
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    io.h certainly IS included in some modern compilers. It is no longer part of the standard for C, but it is nevertheless, included in the very latest Pelles C versions.
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    You mean it's included as a crutch to help ancient programmers limp along without them having to relearn too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Well, this is the unfortunate nature of C. It's so close to the hardware.
    Although C++ simplifies this to a great extent while still remaining close to the hardware. Although C++ is bigger. Much, much bigger than C.
    And, since C++ ALSO supports doing all that C allows, to be fully competent, you would need to understand how C works too - because sooner or later, someone will have a piece of code that uses some of the "tougher" C parts.

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    "speaking words of wisdom, write in c" look the song up in youtube ... quite inspiring in my opinion.

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    "speaking words of wisdom, write in c" look the song up in youtube ... quite inspiring in my opinion.
    You mean that song is actually on Youtube? Some C programmer is not programming in C, apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserlight View Post
    You mean that song is actually on Youtube? Some C programmer is not programming in C, apparently
    For the sake of completeness:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LNTTGDKYo

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasta_freak View Post
    For the sake of completeness:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LNTTGDKYo
    That's awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasta_freak View Post
    For the sake of completeness:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LNTTGDKYo
    The pic for that video had me in stitches. I don't know how many people will get the Bruce Lee reference, so here's the original quote from the man himself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-cnizLDEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonehambey View Post
    The pic for that video had me in stitches. I don't know how many people will get the Bruce Lee reference, so here's the original quote from the man himself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-cnizLDEE
    For the sake of completeness:
    Something like that has been being said by Shiva, Budda, Jesus, Mohamed, Osho, and many many others in last few thousand years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by neesh View Post
    I'm not giving up but I am looking for some success stories to motivate me.
    40 yrs old, started C 1.5 months ago w/books recommended by these forums.
    Trying to nurture this interest into a passion.
    cheers.
    I am 32 and just started myself. There seems much to learn and I don't know what kind of person you are, but my motivation comes in two parts:

    1) I want a change in professions and am willing to get there no matter how long it takes

    2) I am the type that gets determined to prove myself to myself. I'll keep this up until I know I can hold my own with it, find myself held with respect for what I know by peers ( most likely to be people here in these forums ), and in the time it takes to get there I will most definitely have learned a good deal of something about programming in C.

    Have fun with it.

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    >>I'm not giving up but I am looking for some success stories to motivate me.
    40 yrs old, started C 1.5 months ago w/books recommended by these forums.
    Trying to nurture this interest into a passion.
    cheers.
    I'm 14 and learned c and c++ in a year.(Also learned windows api,somewhat)
    Read(buy) C++ Without Fear. Excellent begginers book. I read it in about 6 months and it gave me a pretty good understanding of programming in general and C++(Never programmed before). Also, if you ever have a question, just use google. In my opinion its a programmers best friend. [email protected]. Don't be afraid to email and ask a question.

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    I have found using K&R's bible in conjunction with this site has been more than enough to keep me learning. I am sticking with C for now, but eventually will move on to C++.

    As for more motivation, programming is a great workout for the mind. I work construction, fight mma and lift weights. Physically, I am in decent shape. I haven't done much in the past few years ( except for my love of a good read ) to exercise my mind beyond the minimum necessity to function through a day. This is a great complement to overall health.

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