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abh!shek
02-04-2008, 08:09 AM
Are you a man or a woman ?


Seriously, its not possible to guess people's gender from their names and many of you don't have an Avatar. I don't understand whether its a man or a woman answering my questions in C/C++. I might end up referring you by "she" even if you are a man in case you don't answer this question.

So please specify your gender here. :rolleyes:

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 08:17 AM
I see no need to, really. Deal with it instead.

If someone feels like they need to correct you, they will. Sure nobody will be offended because someone confused their gender. Move on...

Dino
02-04-2008, 08:18 AM
Manly man. Arrrrrgh. (just in case "Todd" wasn't clear enough.)

I think I know where you are going with this, and I'm pretty sure Elysia is female!!

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 08:33 AM
Sometime ago I made a public move on laserlight on this forum only to discover he's male and the avatar is of a female colleague at work.

Traumatic as it may seem, it served to make me realize that I'm probably gay and I just don't know yet. I'm currently exploring the woman inside me. So... I'm unsure as to what exactly I am. I'll let you know when I can have a decent talk with her without starting to argue.

CornedBee
02-04-2008, 08:45 AM
The Obait-Ku don't have genders.

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 08:51 AM
The Obait-Ku don't have genders.

Google says "Obait-Ku" didn't match any documents. What does it mean ?

matsp
02-04-2008, 08:52 AM
The first question here is "How do you know if the other person is telling the truth anyways?"

Things like "Does this code work?" can be verified, but should someone say that they are male or female, you can't REALLY check that unless you meet with that person - which may be difficult for some of us, as there are members almost all over the world here.

And of course, no one HAS to answer any questions here, unless the owner of the website says so [that is allowed under the condition that a website owner can do anything they like, it's voluntary to join any particular site - although each country has some laws regarding what sort of questions you may or may not ask].

--
Mats

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 08:58 AM
And of course, no one HAS to answer any questions here, unless the owner of the website says so

umm.....sorry for that *has* thing, but i don't know how to edit it now. Maybe the admin will change it to "Everybody is requested to answer this" or something like that. I hope this post is not toooo offending to get deleted completely.

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 09:00 AM
I think I know where you are going with this

Nothing like that :p , just a general question out of curiosity.

Yarin
02-04-2008, 09:09 AM
the admin will change it to "Everybody is requested to answer this" or something like that.
Believe me, he won't.

I hope this post is not toooo offending to get deleted completely.
It's very 'not smart', but not offending.

You never even said what you are. (I'm guessing you'r a female though)

The majority of people here are males, so just guess, or say "he" until she says somthing.

mike_g
02-04-2008, 09:16 AM
This can be determined with a get sex calculator. Just plug in the username:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int getSex()
{
char name[100];
fgets(name, 100, stdin);
int i, sex=0;
for(int i=0; i<strlen(name); i++)
sex += name[i];
return sex & 2;
}

int main()
{
if(getSex())
printf("Is man!");
else
printf("Is woman!");
getchar();
return 0;
}

CornedBee
02-04-2008, 09:22 AM
What does it mean?
Wouldn't you like to know. But I'm afraid I'm not at liberty to tell you.

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 09:23 AM
if(getSex())
printf("Is man!");
else
printf("Is woman!");
getchar();
return 0;
}


So... if you can get sex it's a woman? I thought that was men?

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 09:23 AM
You never even said what you are. (I'm guessing you'r a female though)


See that thing written below my name--"Confused Guy".

mike_g
02-04-2008, 09:24 AM
Yeah there was a slight bug in it. I fixed it now, so I'm a man again! Yay :D

Yarin
02-04-2008, 09:25 AM
What? Now I have to repost, cos I like it so! :D


Input sex
mike_g

Is woman!

:D

CornedBee
02-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Now try to find a name that leads to a different sex depending on the character set :D

"I'm a man in UTF-8, but a woman in Latin-1."

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 09:27 AM
Input sex
mike_g

Is woman!


LOL !!

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 09:31 AM
yeah. nothing like math to prove a theorem

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 09:34 AM
Please don't write anything which might insult someone. Its written in community guidelines.

I was damn serious while starting this thread. I just want to know what's written in the first post.

anon
02-04-2008, 09:37 AM
I believe English allows you to call anybody "them".

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 09:40 AM
My English is not that good, but i was taught that "them" is for plural ?

matsp
02-04-2008, 09:43 AM
My English is not that good, but i was taught that "them" is for plural ?

Generally yes.

--
Mats

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 09:43 AM
Please don't write anything which might insult someone. Its written in community guidelines.

Don't worry. No guidelines are being breached, no one's being insulted and we all are having some time off.


I just want to know what's written in the first post.

You can call me anything.

mike_g
02-04-2008, 09:49 AM
Yeah I was a bit dissapointed that I couldent hide my little secret, but this stuff happens.

tabstop
02-04-2008, 10:42 AM
Man, two dozen replies and no one answered as a programmer!?! Fine:


Are you a man or a woman ?

Yes.

indigo0086
02-04-2008, 11:38 AM
You can call me anything.


[Censored by the cosmic moderator of peace and love]-eater!!!

laserlight
02-04-2008, 11:40 AM
Man, two dozen replies and no one answered as a programmer!?!
So your answer is "Man"?

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 11:43 AM
[Censored by the cosmic moderator of peace and love]-eater!!!

chicken!

SlyMaelstrom
02-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Man, two dozen replies and no one answered as a programmer!?! It's General Discussion. If this was the C forum, it would have been a different story and I probably would have complained about the invalid syntax and given a compiler error.

Anyway, to the OP: I'm at least 50&#37; of one of those choices... and the remainder of me is from a dimension of space beyond which you can comprehend... no offense. I would also like to mention that I am also exploring Mario's inner-woman... with my index and middle finger. *wikki wikki*

Dino
02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
Anyway, to the OP: I'm at least 50% of one of those choices...

So, what you're saying is that you have at least an X chromosome? ;)

vart
02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
So your answer is "Man"?

No, it was a question.
Man? No answer so far.

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 12:24 PM
I would also like to mention that I am also exploring Mario's inner-woman

Ohhh, a party!

Prelude
02-04-2008, 12:28 PM
>I don't understand whether its a man or a woman answering my questions in C/C++.
Why does it matter?

>I might end up referring you by "she" even if you
>are a man in case you don't answer this question.
Your solution is inefficient. By asking everyone's gender, you have to remember them all. And that list will only cover a fraction of this forum's members, so your solution isn't very effective either. Why not just refer to someone by name when you feel the need to use a gender-dependent pronoun?

CornedBee
02-04-2008, 12:32 PM
Your solution is inefficient. By asking everyone's gender, you have to remember them all.

Not really. Since the gender imbalance is huge, all he has to do is to remember the two or three women among the active posters.

He could just go with my solution and call everyone "he" unless being explicitly corrected. The gender imbalance also means that this won't happen often. (This needs adaption, of course. On another board there's mostly women, so my default stance there is "she".)

SlyMaelstrom
02-04-2008, 12:35 PM
I perfer the completely PC approach of "he/she" as apposed to "he-she", which I'm sure is just a silly approach from a statistical perspective.

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 12:42 PM
As noted before there's also the possibility of fleeing from the issue altogether, depending on how the phrase is constructed.

"Xpact logged in. It's in their right to do so."

Prelude
02-04-2008, 03:07 PM
>Since the gender imbalance is huge, all he has to do is [...]
Of course, you have to know the genders to realize there's an imbalance, and it still doesn't protect you at all from insulting a new or less active member that you haven't encountered. I still claim that it's inefficient (because you have to remember more than with a simple guideline of avoiding gender pronouns) and ineffective (because the approach doesn't take unknowns into account).

>On another board there's mostly women, so my default stance there is "she".
Is it a programming board?

abachler
02-04-2008, 03:14 PM
Sometime ago I made a public move on laserlight on this forum only to discover he's male and the avatar is of a female colleague at work.


Oh the humanity, that just ruined my week :(

On a lighter note, in Modern English, he/him/his is also the neuter. So unless the gender of the article is relevant to the discussion, it is perfectly correct to use he/him/his when the gender is unknown.


On another board there's mostly women, so my default stance there is "she".)

That makes me wonder if perhaps there isnt a gender imbalance among programmers, but maybe just self segregation on to male and female websites

Elysia
02-04-2008, 03:24 PM
This can be determined with a get sex calculator. Just plug in the username:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int getSex()
{
char name[100];
fgets(name, 100, stdin);
int i, sex=0;
for(int i=0; i<strlen(name); i++)
sex += name[i];
return sex & 2;
}

int main()
{
if(getSex())
printf("Is man!");
else
printf("Is woman!");
getchar();
return 0;
}

This makes me wonder if you tested is right :)
Enter name: Prelude
Is a man!
Hehehe.

Thantos
02-04-2008, 03:25 PM
Oh the humanity, that just ruined my week :(

On a lighter note, in Modern English, he/him/his is also the neuter. So unless the gender of the article is relevant to the discussion, it is perfectly correct to use he/him/his when the gender is unknown.

Not anymore. The PC preference is to use he/she or him/her or to avoid it all together.


This topic reminds me of what I consider the first rule of the internet: Assume a penis until proven otherwise.

Elysia
02-04-2008, 03:28 PM
Some people who are actually she can take offense at being called he. Happened once here on cboard, as I saw it. Probably happened more times, as well. Might even work the other way around.
So the golden rule is: don't assume gender; use gender neutrality.

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Yes. I could take offense at people taking offense of such a common blooper.

But my position on these things is to never take them seriously, even at the face of an angry mob if needed be. I will never understand that kind of people. Male or female. Who cares if someone takes me for a female? I will not fell less a man if it happens.

Don't feel you owe anything to someone who gets offended if you make such a mistake.

jEssYcAt
02-04-2008, 03:46 PM
Uh, negative, I am a meat popsicle.

Does the quality of the answer somehow change if the person has certain anatomy? Makes me wonder whether we should trust hermaphrodites now... *nervous look*

whiteflags
02-04-2008, 04:05 PM
A confirmed internet female faces heavily stacked odds (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/45/Nerd_rush.JPG).

CornedBee
02-04-2008, 04:13 PM
>On another board there's mostly women, so my default stance there is "she".
Is it a programming board?


That makes me wonder if perhaps there isnt a gender imbalance among programmers, but maybe just self segregation on to male and female websites

Hehe, it's a Harry Potter fandom board. :D

twomers
02-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Everyone here's a dude unless proven otherwise, so far as I'm concerned. I think Prelude's the only lady.

Hagrid: Yer a wizard, CornedBee.
CornedBee: I'm a wot?

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 08:38 PM
Some people who are actually she can take offense at being called he. Happened once here on cboard, as I saw it. Probably happened more times, as well. Might even work the other way around.
So the golden rule is:..............

Ask them to specify it in general discussion board.:cool:

abh!shek
02-04-2008, 08:42 PM
Everyone here's a dude unless proven otherwise, so far as I'm concerned. I think Prelude's the only lady.



You didn't read Todd's post ?


Manly man. Arrrrrgh. (just in case "Todd" wasn't clear enough.)

I think I know where you are going with this, and I'm pretty sure Elysia is female!!


And yeah, there is username "Aia" who has a beautiful girl's avatar. So IMO, there are 3 girls, 1Obait-Ku (CornedBee) and (n-4) boys.

Mario F.
02-04-2008, 08:43 PM
I think todd is a woman in disguise and Elysia is a bot

Edit: and twomers is a very smart cocker spaniel and Prelude is not a lady because she scares me.