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ki113r
08-28-2007, 10:10 PM
Today , I politiley ask for someone to run my code on a Unix machine for testing ( because I dont have one at hand .... and it is pointless to keep coding it if it wont run on a Unix machine ) , and I give the source code and not the .exe and still I'm accused ( not on this website btw ) that Im trying to get peoples computers infected and what not. If the person had even took 2 mins to have a look through the code he could have seen that there was no threat yet he goes ahead and accusses me anyway. WTH are you afraid of anyway ??? I thought Unix systems are virus free . That guy has really got me ........ed off . I wouldn't pause for 2 seconds to run someones program , i mean cmon wth could happen, if its a virus my AV will detect it , and if its spyware ill get rid of it just as easily. Unix people can be real sissies sometimes. I had to get that off my chest

MacGyver
08-28-2007, 10:20 PM
I thought Unix systems are virus free .

You're kidding me, right?

matsp
08-29-2007, 03:18 AM
And to solve your problem, perhaps you can either find some old machine, or a second hard-disk, and install Linux as a dual boot option in your existing machine? It doesn't take that much effort to download it and install.

Or use something like VMWare or Xen to run multiple OS's in your machine at the same time.

Chances are that if you haven't spent a lot of time (or have a lot of experience in writing for multiple architectures) somethng will need fixing, and then you'll be asking again, and again, and again.

[I too wouldn't run anyone elses code unless I actually knew the person in some better way than reading the odd post on a forum]

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Mats

zacs7
08-29-2007, 04:25 AM
I hope you are joking...

It's like if I built a plane, with no qualifications and offered it to a perfect stranger to test -- but I'd even show him the plans!

If you're not willing to install Linux to test it, then try something CD-based ie knoppix, either be fully devoted to a Linux port or not at all - not half way.

MacGyver
08-29-2007, 05:24 AM
I'm sort of confused how he's totally convinced he can run an arbitrary .exe file on Windows and handle any malicious program that it turns out to be. I'm sure such a belief could be dashed quite easily should ki113r ever face a real malicious program and not something some 2-bit script kiddie put together from a do-it-yourself VB virus kit. :rolleyes:

zacs7
08-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Just as if I used a do-it-yourself Plane kit :)

Still, people didn't want to fly it :(



Shut up about planes


Okay...

MacGyver
08-29-2007, 06:04 AM
/me thinks zacs7 must have had a childhood dream to be a pilot. :p

CornedBee
08-29-2007, 06:23 AM
Yeah, some real misconception about how a virus checker works, there.

ki113r
08-29-2007, 08:24 AM
The thing is if that guy spent at least 2 mins to have a look at the source he wouldn't have to falsely accuse me of anything . Unofrtunately some people just don't trust anyone these days .

whiteflags
08-29-2007, 10:27 AM
Regardless of the unnecessary claims of others, it is rather silly that you'd just dump a whole project on a forum and ask them to debug a program on an OS that you don't have. No one smart enough to help you will do it, and for your sake, you shouldn't trust them to. I don't know what else you'd like to hear.

If you're writing Unix specific code, well, you need to get a Unix machine and solve your own problem. If you just need to get a program to run on it, then write standard code. In a standardized language like C, you should be able to develop anywhere, as long as you don't try to use OS-specific stuff like pthreads or system("clear") and it will run on Unix as it did on Windows.

brewbuck
08-29-2007, 11:05 AM
This unidentified person sounds like a real dork. There's a lot of open source software out there, and it's used heavily in the UNIX world. Most people who compile this software for their own use do NOT investigate the source code before doing so.

If this person is willing to download and install open source programs with no thought, but suspects that you are some kind of cracker for doing exactly the same thing, he's an idiot.

Maybe you should send him a link to SourceForge and REALLY give him a heart attack.

Don't listen to the naysaying around here. In my experience most folks here are Windows programmers. They have a.. uh... somewhat different mindset? I'd be happy to look at your code and try to compile it.

whiteflags
08-29-2007, 01:06 PM
If this person is willing to download and install open source programs with no thought, but suspects that you are some kind of cracker for doing exactly the same thing, he's an idiot.

Maybe you should send him a link to SourceForge and REALLY give him a heart attack.

Don't listen to the naysaying around here. In my experience most folks here are Windows programmers. They have a.. uh... somewhat different mindset? I'd be happy to look at your code and try to compile it.

Naysaying? I know ki113r wants to get his homework done!

This thread makes me sad. Windows programmers are not ignorant to the joyous and wonderful open source experience. But homework is not an open source project. The way that kl113r presented his problem would make it hard for me to really help a student like him, so I'm not really convinced that long distance debugging really works for them like it might elsewhere. I just put myself in the shoes of so-called experts he asked, and ended up saying what I said. Seemed like decent advice.

Maybe he should have posted here first.

These mixed feelings I've been having regarding this have really had a ripple effect. I don't know if message boards really do anything, at all.

Yeah, this thread makes me sad.

MacGyver
08-30-2007, 12:28 AM
What's wrong with suggesting a guy developing for *nix stations should compile and run his own code?

For a complete stranger that is ignorant of Unix, I doubt I'd want to waste my time compiling and running his code. You can make this a Windows vs Unix debate if you want, but if anyone fits a stereotype of a dumb Windows user, it's the OP, so I wouldn't go there.

Anybody notice this?


Unix people can be real sissies sometimes.

Sounds like this isn't the first Unix guy that ki113r's got upset with him. ;)

brewbuck
08-30-2007, 12:40 AM
This thread makes me sad. Windows programmers are not ignorant to the joyous and wonderful open source experience. But homework is not an open source project. The way that kl113r presented his problem would make it hard for me to really help a student like him, so I'm not really convinced that long distance debugging really works for them like it might elsewhere. I just put myself in the shoes of so-called experts he asked, and ended up saying what I said. Seemed like decent advice.

As far as I can tell, the guy just wants to see if it compiles. "Get a UNIX box" is a pretty bizarre suggestion. Not everybody has the resources to do that. I'm not offering to debug his program, but I'm perfectly willing to try compiling it.

matsp
08-30-2007, 02:52 AM
As far as I can tell, the guy just wants to see if it compiles. "Get a UNIX box" is a pretty bizarre suggestion. Not everybody has the resources to do that. I'm not offering to debug his program, but I'm perfectly willing to try compiling it.

But if you have a PC with a CD-ROM drive, you can use any of a number of "run from CD" versions of Linux - such as Knoppix that has been suggested already. That's of course the Linux version of Unix, but since there's been no real suggestion of what flavour of Unix the OP wanted to use, then I'd say that's sufficient.

If Linux is not good enough a Unix, then there's always the possibility to install Solaris on a PC - that would requires some free diskspace (e.g. using partition magic or similar application), but it's entirely possible to do. Solaris is available at no cost to the user.

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Mats

maxorator
08-30-2007, 03:02 AM
I just tested one small Linux (Puppy Linux, ~95MB) yesterday. I just wrote it on a CD-RW and booted from it. ;)