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Doxygen
09-29-2006, 04:26 AM
Hi to all the experts on this board,


apparently it seems that most of my friends and classmates are getting their assignments done by others. I feel frustrated by their action as they seem to be getting higher marks. Maybe this is how life works.

bivhitscar
09-29-2006, 04:34 AM
I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you do your own work and learn from it, then that's the main thing. As soon as the people who are cheating make it to the real world, they won't be able to hold a job for very long.

Doxygen
09-29-2006, 04:43 AM
yeah i do have to agree with you biv. But it seems that nowadays no one ever bothers about doing their own works, at least for my friends.

Mario F.
09-29-2006, 04:51 AM
and my daughter friends... and my daughter sometimes.

Don't worry. Life is only starting. It takes an... hmmm... interesting turn after school days are over.

Salem
09-29-2006, 05:34 AM
> apparently it seems that most of my friends and classmates are getting their assignments done by others
Sooner or later, their luck will run out as the assignment becomes too complicated for them to even comprehend how to solve it, and they fail to find someone in time to sponge an answer off.

The only real downside is that if they're already experienced "wafflers", they might get out of it. In work, such people get promoted rather than fired for incompetence :(

Does you college have an anonymous tip-off line?

Doxygen
09-29-2006, 05:50 AM
Well apparently we can ask someone to write the code for just a few hundred dollars. What amazed me is that those can be found all over the college!

Salem
09-29-2006, 05:55 AM
So with enough money, you can simply buy your degree by purchasing all the assignments?

Wraithan
09-29-2006, 05:59 AM
I wish I had that kind of money to blow... it would mostly go into feeding my caffine addiction and books. As it is, I only get a new book once every month, sometimes less than that. Hopefully I can find a job that pays better than min wage soon and be able to start getting more books.

Doxygen
09-29-2006, 06:04 AM
apparently for the first year( teacher doesn't care about this)

Perspective
09-29-2006, 08:48 AM
Wait for exam time, it'll all come around in the end.

indigo0086
09-29-2006, 08:55 AM
I actually saw first hand students getting kicked out of class for cheating. My first java programming semester a few students got kicked out for doing the assignments together, the next semester someone in my class used this hire a coder website, and the coder for the person e-mailed my professor about it, he never told us who he was, but it was pretty funny, the student must have felt betrayed.

Then I heard from another student that was in my class that after I finished the exam, and the teacher was grading papers, he called the student up to talk about his assignment. In the class you had to give the written assignment and the output. if the output was doctored then that's academic dishonesty and you fail the class. The kid apperantly wasn't that bright and apperantly nonchalantly told the teacher that he had changed the output a little bit. The teacher is a nice guy and very funny and cool, but he was like, "you got a lot of guts just telling me that", and the kid got kicked out. The kid was kind of annoying, so I didn't feel sorry for him.

quzah
09-29-2006, 08:58 AM
NEWS FLASH! WORLD UNFAIR! FILM AT 11!


Quzah.

BobMcGee123
09-29-2006, 09:46 AM
I wrote a homework assignment for an annoying person once in university. Simple code, and he clearly had no understanding or talent with programming.

I made an array of characters, the alphabet, and indexed into that array to create a special message upon execution. The program also ended with a couple hundred '\a' escape sequences :)

The message was "I'm a moron"

System_159
09-29-2006, 11:13 AM
I wrote a homework assignment for an annoying person once in university. Simple code, and he clearly had no understanding or talent with programming.

I made an array of characters, the alphabet, and indexed into that array to create a special message upon execution. The program also ended with a couple hundred '\a' escape sequences :)

The message was "I'm a moron"

That's great. I've had people pester me for code before. And if they keep at it, eventually I'll write them something with a lot of stuff either coded or commented in it to let the teacher know that it's not of their creation.

Sometimes it would just be a few comments before a function:


/**************************************
**function srt_data accepts an array of structures
**and sorts them based on the data type specified
**by the user. btw, this code is completely stolen
**the student that is submitting this assignment is
**a complete idiot, give him a zero. please
*****************************************/
void srt_data()

Mario F.
09-29-2006, 11:14 AM
Yes. I still think it's easier to simply not do it for them

System_159
09-29-2006, 11:26 AM
Yes. I still think it's easier to simply not do it for them

But less fun! And that way if they realise what they get when they just ask for code they stop asking. If they were to just ask for some help, that's fine, but it's also very rare.


To the OP, just tell the professor what's going on. Or just wait for the tests, so you can point and laugh at them.

IfYouSaySo
09-29-2006, 11:58 AM
I had a similar situation. A guy a knew hadn't done his assignments, and his instructor was giving him one chance at the end of the semester to turn it in. He asked me to do it. I said, "I'll be more than happy to help you out if you get stuck, or give you ideas, but I really don't want to do it for you." He says "No I don't have time, I really just need you to do it so I can pass, I'll buy you a beer or something." I asked again--he said no, so I wrote it. This was an intro to c++ class. So I used vector<>, for_each(), and std::copy with cout to write the contents of the vector to the console window. I figured the instructor would get the idea.

I heard later that the instructor wanted to meet with him about the code he turned in, and was only willing to give him credit if he could explain it line by line. Needless to say, he didn't have the meeting, and didn't pass the class.

The cool part was, after I finished it for him, but before he turned it in, he actually bought me a beer and thanked me for it.

Mario F.
09-29-2006, 12:02 PM
Yes. I still think it's easier to simply not do it for them.

Boy... am I annoying, or what! :D

twomers
09-29-2006, 12:07 PM
I don't know if I could do that, IfYouSaySo. Seems somewhat ... sorry ... backstabbing, in my opinion. May be just me though.

IfYouSaySo
09-29-2006, 03:10 PM
Yes, I felt bad, but only a little bit. He didn't even know what std::vector was, because he either hadn't gone to class or wasn't paying attention enough. And like I said, I was willing to sit down and help him through every little problem as long as he did it himself. But all he wanted was the grade, and he wanted someone else to earn it for him. And I really don't have much respect or tolerance for that. So really...he deserved what he got.

Decrypt
09-29-2006, 03:17 PM
>I don't know if I could do that

I can (http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=72357&highlight=closer) - and it's been too long...:D

twomers
09-29-2006, 03:22 PM
Hehe! If they don't read the guidelines, I guess it's their fault. 13 months though, Decrypt ... it's a long fast! I really like that program! Mind if I ... borrow it or something?

Doxygen
09-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I certainly hope I will have the courage to tell my professor about this ( not sure if I will get beaten by all those cheaters though).

Wraithan
09-29-2006, 05:01 PM
My favorite one I wrote for a classmate who was persistant... We were supposed to make an array and print it out. Well it printed "This person cheated" the array was all ints and it casted them as it printed. He got really ........ed off when the teacher made a public displayal of his program in class. The teacher laughed when he showed it to the class and told him if he is ever caught doing something like this again.. he will make sure he is expelled.

I made sure I didn't walk alone on campus for the next couple weeks, but he got what he deserved.

BobMcGee123
09-29-2006, 08:44 PM
I had a similar situation. A guy a knew hadn't done his assignments, and his instructor was giving him one chance at the end of the semester to turn it in. He asked me to do it. I said, "I'll be more than happy to help you out if you get stuck, or give you ideas, but I really don't want to do it for you." He says "No I don't have time, I really just need you to do it so I can pass, I'll buy you a beer or something." I asked again--he said no, so I wrote it. This was an intro to c++ class. So I used vector<>, for_each(), and std::copy with cout to write the contents of the vector to the console window. I figured the instructor would get the idea.

I heard later that the instructor wanted to meet with him about the code he turned in, and was only willing to give him credit if he could explain it line by line. Needless to say, he didn't have the meeting, and didn't pass the class.

The cool part was, after I finished it for him, but before he turned it in, he actually bought me a beer and thanked me for it.

Ha, that's great.

swoopy
09-29-2006, 10:06 PM
I certainly hope I will have the courage to tell my professor about this ( not sure if I will get beaten by all those cheaters though).
Well, my guess is, the cheaters will have a hard time on the in-class tests. Assuming your professor gives those.

biosninja
10-01-2006, 11:21 PM
not to sound rude, but this is something I had to learn very fast:

"Life's not fair....deal with it!!!!"

Rennor
10-02-2006, 01:20 AM
Duh, 13 years ago, while I was studying in local vocational school we had this C/C++ course where most of my classmates knew more about how to cure cancer than what the hell is computer.

Anyway, our teacher knew less than me (he was actually learning programming basics so to speak) and we did not get along too well while I was being arrogant all-knowing prat and that poor sod was teaching things wrong to rest of the class. In the end we had this big assignment to do: "make a program that uses all which has been covered during past year".

Ofcourse most of my class was "in trouble" so to speak, except the fact there was, uh, Me! Oh I did alot of money in those few weeks and I also went quite innovative about what kinds of programs I write for almost everyone everything from tile-based dungeon crawl games to small pixel-drawing tools and ... all nice little programs. Everyone scored top scores from those assignments... except me.
About my work my teacher came to discuss with me about it "From which book you copied this program from?" just because I used this mcga BGI driver which was not by default supplied with Borland Turbo C++ and eventhough I supplied that file in the disc I gave to my teacher he failed to launch the project properly to have the project directory set to where the project is ("A:\") but in borland's default directory and my program didnt execute.


Morale of the story?

World aint fair.

VirtualAce
10-02-2006, 04:21 AM
Oh yeah, well one time at band camp.....


Oh, sorry wrong thread.

:)

maxorator
10-07-2006, 04:06 AM
People should just do it themselves and not complain that much when others cheat, because you're not learning to get the "papers", you're learning to succeed in the future. We can't do anything about it anyway.