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SlyMaelstrom
08-17-2006, 09:58 AM
We should definitely consider a bot that auto responds to any post contained "homework" and not containing CODE tags with a link to the homework policy. There used to be a time, where I had to figure that the post was homework they weren't doing, now they're so brash that they straight out tell you it's homework.

Prelude
08-17-2006, 10:09 AM
>We should definitely consider a bot that auto responds to any post
>contained "homework" and not containing CODE tags with a link to the homework policy.
There would be too many false positives. It's better to let the community police itself.

SlyMaelstrom
08-17-2006, 10:16 AM
My intentions are purely for the community. We waste too much time shuffling through the trash to get to the good posts. Some of which go by completely unnoticed. While my examples would clearly bring tons of false positives, I'm sure there is a simple implementation that could be nearly fullproof. In any event, I don't expect this to happen, even if it could work, which it may not be able to. I'm just in a pipe dream.

pianorain
08-17-2006, 10:36 AM
While we're pipe-dreaming, this bot should also auto-respond to every first poster and every poster that hasn't posted in a month with a link to the FAQ (just in case they didn't read it or forgot it).

whiteflags
08-17-2006, 10:36 AM
> We waste too much time shuffling through the trash
I guess one way to fix that is to stop. My understanding though is that the dedicated people here have big hearts and don't want to ignore people. The biggest reason we get frustrated though is that we can only help one person at a time, and we can't demonstrate our example to the world so that we never again need to explain or guess "please use code tags", "don't use gets", "what is your compiler / OS?", "what are you doing and why?", etc.

I'm sure you realise that. We all need to cope better when considering the futility of what we're doing I suppose.

pianorain
08-17-2006, 10:40 AM
we can't demonstrate our example to the world so that we never again need to explain or guess "please use code tags", "don't use gets", "what is your compiler / OS?", "what are you doing and why?", etc.I could have sworn that's what the FAQ was for. Well, that plus a link to How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html). I fully support any moderator that closes a thread with the single reply "Read the FAQ, ask a smart question, and try again".

whiteflags
08-17-2006, 10:42 AM
Imagine the world where this happens without anyone telling them to, and the mods wouldn't have to paste the same links forever.

Prelude
08-17-2006, 10:48 AM
>Imagine the world where this happens without anyone telling them to
Wisdom and experience are one in the same. It's asking too much for newbies to figure out how the world works without making any mistakes. Besides, the ones who don't learn typically don't stay for long, and there are not a few people who started out making posting mistakes but ended up being valuable members of the community. I'm willing to suffer a few idiots for every friend I make. :)

Salem
08-17-2006, 11:35 AM
It would be better if the management at least put back the JS which checked a post on submission. It has a rather good heuristic for detecting posts which contain code and prompting the user to use the code tags before submitting.

Very few posts got through without code tags prior to the update of the board.

Sign the petition!!!
http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=81961

twomers
08-17-2006, 11:53 AM
It would be nice if when one was registering they specified all OS and Compilers they were using, than on the LHS of their post, it displayed it, or if it was automatically in someone's sig.

>> Sign the petition!!!
>> http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=81961
Done!!

>> While we're pipe-dreaming, this bot should also auto-respond to every first poster and every poster that hasn't posted in a month with a link to the FAQ (just in case they didn't read it or forgot it).
That's a right good idea! But I think it should only be for first time users, if I was away from a computer, I'd get kinda annoyed if I got lots of messages regarding the FAQ. But I can understand why someone should take look at it every now and then - I was half ways through blessing swoopy for this post ( http://cboard.cprogramming.com/showpost.php?p=581556&postcount=41 ), cause of the clrscr() function, and begging the Mods or whoever to put it in the FAQ, when I checked it and saw that it was already there. If the FAQ link be bolded when something new is put there, it would be good.

pianorain
08-17-2006, 12:21 PM
If the FAQ link be bolded when something new is put there, it would be good.Heh, I have a feeling that it would go unnoticed, just like Announcements are. On the other hand, if all the FAQ's were posted in the FAQ board and the FAQ board was updated instead of the site FAQ, you could subscribe to the forum to see when new FAQ's were added. A helpful sticky on the FAQ board would be a "table of contents" or "posts by subject matter" post.

twomers
08-17-2006, 12:49 PM
I think there should be a link to the FAQ on the top of every forum. I know there is one already on the page. It would be clearer though if it was like a stickey (for me anyway).

I do think your idea is better, it would require a lot of work, but better, pianorain. (Congrads on your 1000th)

VirtualAce
08-17-2006, 01:00 PM
My understanding though is that the dedicated people here have big hearts and don't want to ignore people.

Shhhhhhh!!

Don't let that get out or we are all ruined. We are trying to show everyone that we are mean and hard-core uber elitists.

:)

twomers
08-17-2006, 01:04 PM
Quoting Kermi3 - 'The message boards can be an unfriendly place...', etc.

Mario F.
08-17-2006, 02:44 PM
And they can. I have my share of unfriendly behavior, as many others do to. Some days are just...like that. Thank goodness for that, actually. It would be boring if we were all perfect gentleman. Sometimes it feels good to come down crashing on someone being an arse. Other times if feels good being an arse ourselves. Most of the times though everything comes down to misconceptions of what the poster meant or how his disposition was when he wrote something.

But even if it was debatable that people here are mostly friendly (I personally think they are), it is definitely a fact they are helpful. And that is really what matters most.

twomers
08-17-2006, 02:47 PM
>> It would be boring if we were all perfect gentleman.

He doesn't mean it, citizen!

Mario F.
08-17-2006, 02:51 PM
hehe. I do, I do

twomers
08-17-2006, 02:54 PM
He's just having one of those days, never mind his 'hehe', >> Sometimes it feels good to come down crashing on someone being an arse.

Mario F.
08-17-2006, 02:59 PM
you crack me up lol

whiteflags
08-17-2006, 03:38 PM
>> It would be boring if we were all perfect gentleman.

He doesn't mean it, citizen!
I'm sure he didn't. We don't want this nice topic to go too far off topic now guys.
As for me being a perfect gentleman, I think the board needed one, don't you? I'm civil to everyone all the time. *sips his tea here* As long as I'm around all claims that the board has no class are false. :)

twomers
08-17-2006, 03:40 PM
ALso, Mario hinted at such -

>> It would be boring if we were all perfect gentleman.

notice, gentleman, not gentlemen

Mario F.
08-17-2006, 03:48 PM
Darn. You are right. Not a common typo coming from me. I have better ones. But that one is shameful!

But, going on topic, I don't see homework posts as a bad thing. I do agree some are really shameful. But sometimes (most times) it is possible to actually answer them without providing any code. Just giving the OP a pointer or two.

Q: How do I do this or that?

A: Use containers. Read about them over here (provide link).

If he insists on code... then... well... yeah...

twomers
08-17-2006, 03:51 PM
Mario - Th3 l1nk 1s d34d, 1 n33d c0d3


But I agree with you. However, i'm only against people who ask for complete code. if someone simply wants to know how to use a function they have never used before, well, that's fine then, IMO, but a whole main() thing ... no chance.