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joeprogrammer
08-07-2006, 08:13 PM
Come on, we all have our opinions ;). With Leopard sneak-peaks coming out, and Vista already around the bend, the race is on! Which do you want more, and which features do you want in either operating system?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/

Mario F.
08-07-2006, 08:37 PM
Leopard definitely. Without WinFS, Vista became just candy on a stick. I pass.

Can't wait for my first Mac laptop after having played for a week with a MacBook Pro 17'' from a friend of mine.

Frobozz
08-07-2006, 08:50 PM
Vista is due in January as long as nothing sets it back farther. Spring 2006 for Leopard could indicate a couple months later or so.

Leopard does look nice I'll give it that, but Vista strikes me as being more of an update to the actual OS. As far as I can tell with the screenshots, Leopard seems to be mostly updates to the system software. That's nice and all, but I typically don't use the system's default software. For browsing I use Firefox, for word processing I use Open Office, etc. ;)

Ideswa
08-08-2006, 02:58 AM
Vista, because we (my family) doesn't use any mac computers. I don't think we will buy Vista immediatly

Ideswa
08-08-2006, 02:58 AM
Vista, because we (my family) doesn't use any mac computers. I don't think we will buy Vista immediatly

twomers
08-08-2006, 05:59 AM
I voted for the non vista option, silpmy cause there are going to be more delays in vista, and I think my own OS will come out first.

Driver
08-08-2006, 06:25 AM
The real question is, How long will it be before the first virus / piece of spyware comes out having "Designed for Windows Vista" written all over it :) ?

Boomba
08-08-2006, 07:16 AM
The real question is, How long will it be before the first virus / piece of spyware comes out having "Designed for Windows Vista" written all over it :) ?

well they already hacked it: here (http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2161790/researchers-put-vista-security)

indigo0086
08-08-2006, 07:46 AM
I read an article where MS hosts a security convention type thing where they invite people to hack vista to better improve security.

As long as there are hackers, they will hack...it's nothing new.

Perspective
08-08-2006, 09:27 AM
I read an article where MS hosts a security convention type thing where they invite people to hack vista to better improve security.



They did and a nice hacker lady found a way to completely bypass the new security layer which prevents unsigned code from running. *oops*
http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=75054&cat_id=582


Looking forward to leopard, I read an article that predicts apple will wait to release it around the same time as Vista.

IfYouSaySo
08-08-2006, 11:37 AM
It's surprising that Apple wouldn't release it like in November or something, for the Christmas season, and just before Vista. Although I think for the most part, there are three categories of people, those that know they're going to buy Apple, those that know they will buy Vista, and those that think their current computer is good enough. Which reminds me, I ran across this guy who had a windows 95 in his house the other day. That was his only computer. Bizarre.

Mario F.
08-08-2006, 01:25 PM
My current laptop can't run Vista.

500Mb RAM, PIII 1000. The only fast thing it has is a Xeon Intel Inside sticker I found laying around at my former workplace.

Problem is, do I really need Vista? From all I saw I don't. There is nothing it offers than can be of any use to me (from the perspective of a home user playing online war games and coding in C++). I don't even need Windows XP for all that is worth. My laptop runs windows 2000 much faster than it does windows XP with a much less memory footprint. 500Mb of RAM is more than enough to make me happy with Windows 2000. And a Pentium III 1000 is a racing car under this OS.

Software is what drives me to buy a new computer. Not the OS. And since I'm not much of a game crazed guy, I'm perfectly happy the way I am. Usually my laptops have an estimated useful life of 5 years. Confessedly, mine is becoming old. But again... why bother? Windows developments in OS for the past 5 years have not impressed me. Windows 2000 was an impressive and great move. Windows XP was... boring. Windows Vista looks... boring.

twomers
08-08-2006, 03:26 PM
>> The only fast thing it has is a Xeon Intel Inside sticker I found laying around at my former workplace.

:) Reminds me of my phone which has a p4, XP and an apple (as in the fruit, not the computer maker/brand), sticker on it.

siavoshkc
08-08-2006, 05:13 PM
In Iran there is no apple at all. 99.9% of users use Windows.
Vista has some new technologies that are hidden to users and are for develorpers. MS has build a new 3D UI to fool people with it.
And there is a WinFS that is supposed to help people managing their file.

kermit
08-08-2006, 05:25 PM
In Iran there is no apple at all. 99.9% of users use Windows.
Vista has some new technologies that are hidden to users and are for develorpers. MS has build a new 3D UI to fool people with it.
And there is a WinFS that is supposed to help people managing their file.

Didn't WinFS get canned with regards to this release?

joeprogrammer
08-08-2006, 05:31 PM
I'm hoping that Apple implements a Wine-like program right into the core of Mac OS X -- similar to Rosetta, except that it wouldn't be emulating. What makes this so possible is that Apple has (or had) access to Windows source code, so they would be able to make a Wine-like application with much greater compatilbility.

The Wine developers are currently reverse-engineering the Windows API, so development goes much slower and compatiblity is harder to come by.

IfYouSaySo
08-08-2006, 05:50 PM
Didn't WinFS get canned with regards to this release?

Also I don't think it's going to ship with MSH, which would have been a major selling point to me.

I'm not sure what's going to be left when they're done removing functionality that won't make the release. Maybe a 3-D desktop?

psychopath
08-08-2006, 05:55 PM
Maybe a 3-D desktop?

That's enough to make people by it just because it's "neat".

Frobozz
08-09-2006, 11:41 AM
I can imagine most of the gaming community (aka those with Unreal and similar) buying it just for DirectX 10. :p

valis
08-09-2006, 12:09 PM
Well I don't actually own a mac but I voted leopord anyway because I hope to be avoiding windows for as long as possible until it starts conflicting with development opportunities (which could be a while).
If osx comes out for the ps3 I might end up owning a copy after all, though I find it unlikely they would make such a release with the new push to intel.

joeprogrammer
08-09-2006, 04:22 PM
If osx comes out for the ps3
Are you kidding? Apple isn't even allowing Mac OS X on regular PCs (at least not legally), and that woud be a piece of cake. I'm not so sure about their decision, I mean after all, they would probably be the leaders in the OS business if they allowed OS X to run on any machine.

valis
08-09-2006, 04:36 PM
I'm surprised they keep it on such tight reins, it would be nice even if it held only a quarter of the market.

Perspective
08-09-2006, 05:10 PM
Releasing OSX on regular PCs would undermine their hardware sales.

joeprogrammer
08-09-2006, 05:22 PM
Releasing OSX on regular PCs would undermine their hardware sales.
Yeah, that's was Apple was thinking all along, and look at MS. :(