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DeepFyre
05-31-2006, 07:44 PM
I keep getting weird email messages with these odd sayings and idioms and metaphors and stuff. There is always a spam email (i.e. sign up for a credit card, or trying to get my personal information someway or another) and at the bottom there will be a message like this:





OFFTOPIC:
Never the twain shall meet No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness Ignorance is bliss A good lawyer must be a great liar. Better an open enemy, than a false friend Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice inside the ceiling laugh
Civility costs nothing Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

Necessity is the mother of invention When a fool is silent, he too is counted among the wise And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger? If you believe everything you read, you better not read One mans meat is another mans poison!
You have to understand, somethings you will never understand The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life, but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit The West Wind Always Brings Wet Weather, The East Wind Wet and Cold Together, the South Wind Surely Brings Us Rain, the North Wind Blows It Back Again Some pork-knockers does only clear track fuh monkey run race. Any port in a storm First Impressions are the Most Lasting All the world loves a lover Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.




when i look at the To: column for the message it says deep5@xxx.xxx where as my real address is deep582@xxx.xxx

I usually ignore these emails, but decided to open one up for some reason and saw that message at the bottom .. was wondering if anybody else has been getting mail like this and if it has any meaning :confused:

SniperSAS
05-31-2006, 08:25 PM
it has no meaning

WaltP
06-01-2006, 12:42 AM
Lately I've been keeping track of some of the sender names for the spam I get. What a wierd list of names!


Vietcong D. Memorandum
Disinters P. Puget
Smoothness J. Literature
Inkiness B. Mariachis
Holocausts Q. Coin
Naiver O. Coordinator
Chiropractor L. Canvasser
Turgenev R. Fagot
Internment I. Supplementing
Favor A. Centuries
Sodomy U. Saunters


And the names in the email address itself:


rqyqsypw@---
xjitfdixbr@---
3D6Xda4dca@---
VXCKEXCVY@---
nykyxylnnhcjk@---
momvy2pqvss@---
bdghkxsxpxjz@---
cuhhvxvozndytw@---
oayxkcaf@---
pjobyxkabsxx@---
qytuoqb@---

ElastoManiac
06-01-2006, 01:10 AM
Stupid people think that's something deep and meaningfull, but thats just plain crap!!!

joeprogrammer
06-01-2006, 09:07 AM
It's useless to keep track of return addresses, because these spammers use their own SMTP servers (usually). For example, take the Linux mail program, Pine. It uses its own SMTP to send the mail, so the user of Pine can choose any return address they like without actually having to own it.

The best thing is to get some sort of spam blocker, and when you broadcast your email address, do it something like this:

something [at] somethingelse.com

That will help prevent spamming bots from harvesting it off the web.

SMurf
06-01-2006, 09:20 AM
something [at] somethingelse.com

That will help prevent spamming bots from harvesting it off the web.
I've never understood why people say that. What's to stop bots being told that " [at] " is the same as @? Sure, they'd have a ton of extra info to crawl through, especially given that there's so many normal addresses about, but the potential is still there. :rolleyes:

SniperSAS
06-01-2006, 10:47 AM
I've never understood why people say that. What's to stop bots being told that " [at] " is the same as @? Sure, they'd have a ton of extra info to crawl through, especially given that there's so many normal addresses about, but the potential is still there. :rolleyes:

Then just type it normally and post a thread about the spam you get

laserlight
06-01-2006, 11:08 AM
What's to stop bots being told that " [at] " is the same as @? Sure, they'd have a ton of extra info to crawl through, especially given that there's so many normal addresses about, but the potential is still there.
Well, if you dont have much sympathy for the visually impaired, an image such as those used by CAPTCHA systems could be used.

DeepFyre
06-01-2006, 04:45 PM
spam really isnt a problem for me, all the spam gets conveniently redirected into the trash bin 99% of the time, and when i sign up for really trashy sites (like trying to sign up for those free ipod things) i usually use mytrashmail or spamgourmet since some sites dont accept mytrashmail

i just kind of found it interesting that whoever is sending this stuff went through the trouble of putting those messages at the bottom

and something else to note: in the particular email that the original message i posted was in, it was an advertisement for stocks for a certain company, and every time the word stock was used, it was spelled incorrectly as stcok (this happened like 8 times)

SniperSAS
06-01-2006, 04:51 PM
i am pretty sure no one is typing them, they are being generated by a cold unfeeling machine

JaWiB
06-01-2006, 05:58 PM
I always assumed the messages and mispellings were intentional to avoid spam filters...

Decrypt
06-02-2006, 06:50 AM
Someone said in a different thread that extra text like that is used so that the pictures to text ratio is better, as that's one of the things spam filters check.

Lately I've been keeping track of some of the sender names Last week I got spam from Jesus. Subject: Yo. Spam from heaven, what's next?

WaltP
06-04-2006, 02:45 AM
It's useless to keep track of return addresses...
No it's not. They are quite funny and many give a good giggle.


I've never understood why people say that. What's to stop bots being told that " [at] " is the same as @? Sure, they'd have a ton of extra info to crawl through, especially given that there's so many normal addresses about, but the potential is still there. :rolleyes:
That's what I always figured. IMAO you should encode the email address, like with the email encoder found here (http://wildeware.com/util/util.htm).

Thantos
06-04-2006, 06:41 AM
WaltP if the browser can easily change it from entity codes to an email address what is to stop a bot from doing the same?

jEssYcAt
06-04-2006, 03:44 PM
i am pretty sure no one is typing them, they are being generated by a cold unfeeling machineActually, it is the collective conciousness of the internet having come to life and trying to reach out to humanity. And since spam is what most of the internet traffic consists of, this newly aware Internet naively assumes that most of humanity is actually reading this trash and thus has the best chance of contact through these messages.

And the reason it doesn't just come right out and say "Hi, I am the internet, lets have a party" or something is because since spam is the most prolific form of communication across the net, this naive internet thinks that we all speak in haiku and gibberish. Kind of like a non-German speaking american being dropped in Germany and trying to speak German to a German citizen...

The fact that the machines housing this collective and naive conciousness are cold and unfeeling is coincidental. :D

gcn_zelda
06-04-2006, 04:11 PM
Would doing something along the lines of "emailn<b></b>ame@gmail.com" work?

sean
06-04-2006, 04:17 PM
Depends on how the crawlers coded. If it just searches the raw HTML for a string, then yes, but it would be very easy to just have it remove tags.

WaltP
06-05-2006, 12:51 AM
WaltP if the browser can easily change it from entity codes to an email address what is to stop a bot from doing the same?
The bot would have to have the eqivalent of a javascript compiler/interpreter -- that's a little much for even a bot...