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DavidP
12-22-2001, 02:22 PM
My theory: Jello is in its own state of matter.

Think about it. It is not a solid. It is not a liquid. It is not a plasma. It is a jello.

While we are at it, did you know that "solid" glass is actually a liquid?

lightatdawn
12-22-2001, 02:59 PM
While we are at it, did you know that "solid" glass is actually a liquid?

Yes, i did. Pretty interesting isn't it? I've seen windows so old that the are actually visibly thicker at the bottom then the top!

On the Jello topic... Be careful there. You're venturing into top secret research data. You could be shot.

Betazep
12-22-2001, 03:14 PM
>>On the Jello topic... Be careful there. You're venturing into top secret research data. You could be shot.

Yezzz... vvee are vewy intwested in vaht you know about dis matters. Vvee are looking up your adwess az vvee speak. Do not try to hide.

-KEN-
12-22-2001, 03:20 PM
Solid glass is actually a liquid?? where'd you hear that? I want a link!! :)

and on the jello thing....duh!

mithrandir
12-22-2001, 05:31 PM
We call it Jelly here (which to you is actually jam/conserve).

gnu-ehacks
12-22-2001, 06:00 PM
Glass is liquid? What liquid properties does it have?

doubleanti
12-23-2001, 12:56 AM
the varying viscosity of a liquid does not make it anything other than a liquid, no 'in between' states exist...

iain
12-23-2001, 07:58 AM
no need for a link - glass is a liquid - its a fact.
As for jello, hmm - its actually classified as a semi-solid matter, but more as solid because of its arrangement of particles.

Oh NO! i agreed not to say anything! - all that research ruined, ill be shot for this!

Betazep
12-23-2001, 01:03 PM
Glass has some properties of a liquid. It is an amorphous solid.


http://www.ualberta.ca/~bderksen/florin.html

oskilian
12-23-2001, 01:10 PM
Jello is not solid nor liquid, it has its own state, I saw that in Chemistry class, but I don't remember what it's called. There are 6 (I don't remember how many exactly) intermediate states. As soon as I find my chemistry notebook, I'll write about it

Oskilian

Betazep
12-23-2001, 01:12 PM
Liquid molecules are in a constant state of movement and entirely random in their configuration. Scientifically, then, cold glass is neither liquid nor solid, because its molecules are motionless (like a solid) but random in configuration (like a liquid). This structure is characteristic of all vitreous (glassy) substances.



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Glass, then, is really neither a liquid nor a solid; it exhibits definite characteristics of each. In fact, some schools of thought find it more clear and convenient to classify matter into four states instead of the traditional three. So don't be surprised if your kids come home from school one day and tell you the Four states of Matter are liquid, solid, gas, and glass.


http://www.spectrumglass.com/Library/ScoreArticles/BitAboutGlass.html

Betazep
12-23-2001, 01:16 PM
There is no clear answer to the question "Is glass solid or liquid?." In terms of molecular dynamics and thermodynamics it is possible to justify various different views that it is a highly viscous liquid, an amorphous solid or simply that glass is another state of matter which is neither liquid or solid. The difference is semantic. In terms of its material properties we can do little better. There is no clear definition of the distinction between solids and highly viscous liquids. All such phases or states of matter are idealisations of real material properties. Nevertheless, from a more common sense point of view, glass should be considered a solid since it is rigid according to every day experience. The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer which should be avoided. In any case, claims that glass in old windows have deformed due to glass flow have never been substantiated. Examples of Roman glassware and calculations based on measurements of glass visco-properties indicate that they cannot be true. The observed features are more easily explained as a result of the imperfect methods used to make glass window panes before the float glass process was invented.



http://www.weburbia.com/physics/glass.html

Pendragon
12-23-2001, 03:13 PM
Glass is a supercool liquid.

Jelly? Isn't it a liquid that whilst it sets the sticky molecules in the mixture stick together until there are huge stringy fibres holding the jelly together?

-Pendragon

Betazep
12-23-2001, 03:15 PM
Hi Penny... *wink* *wink* :D

Pendragon
12-23-2001, 03:18 PM
Hiya Betazep!! ;)

I've actually got your name right this time!!! YAY!:D

:p

-Pendragon

P.S. jelly is nice.

DavidP
12-23-2001, 09:58 PM
There are 6 (I don't remember how many exactly) intermediate states. As soon as I find my chemistry notebook, I'll write about it


What are they! Why the suspense! What the heck are they!

DavidP
12-23-2001, 11:15 PM
I just found this page:

http://www.ccl.net/cca/documents/dyoung/topics-orig/states.html

Go and check it out. What do you all think about it?

Yoshi
12-24-2001, 09:11 PM
Jello = US, Canada, Mexico
Jelly = Other parts of the world

Words that the US had also changed are civili(s)ation (s to z), football (they think their football is popular enough to actually alter the name of English football). Organi(s)ation...

webmaster
12-25-2001, 03:39 PM
Jello, being a gel, is a type of colloid.

jinx
12-25-2001, 03:41 PM
Some scientist has used a Jello-like substance incombination with a laser beam to actually trap light in this jello stuff, then turned the laser off, traping the light, then re-blasting the jello stuff, sending the light back on it's natural path! Cool!

I'll post a link later, its on popsci.com if you must read about it right now.

gamegod3001
12-25-2001, 04:18 PM
That sounds cool jinx maybe I will look it up :p I think I heard about something like that.

Anyways, how come the webmaster does not become involved in more post.

webmaster
12-25-2001, 08:12 PM
I enjoy the occassional post; I'm here, but I prefer to observe. (And how do you know I don't have a second account?)

gamegod3001
12-25-2001, 09:36 PM
lets see your are not kirmi3 since I have seen you both logged in at the same time, that makes you. - Dean