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CompiledMonkey
12-28-2005, 08:33 AM
Does anyone know of a good community around assembly programming?

axon
12-28-2005, 10:05 AM
you don't need a community, you need bubba.

CompiledMonkey
12-28-2005, 10:11 AM
Hahaha, I hear he's good with assembly.

cboard_member
12-28-2005, 10:31 AM
IIRC this forum (assuming I get the URL right) has an assembly board; http://forum.valhallalegends.com

ES (http://forum.entropysink.com) has a little incy-wincy titchy assembly forum.

Otherwise, consult Bubba \o/

EDIT: Hmm, just went to that valhalla legends and it seems to be flooded with people intent on bot hacking etc so it might not be that useful.

JC-Live
12-28-2005, 12:44 PM
Check out http://win.asmcommunity.net/board/

Jim

VirtualAce
12-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Flashdaddee 'used' to have a great assembly board but sadly it has gone the way of the wind.

As my fellow friends have stated I do know a good bit of assembly, but the main guy you should talk to here is Fordy. He has always had just a bit more knowledge of the underlying operations of assembly. Especially when mixed with Win32. Most of my assembly experience has been in 16-bit although 32-bit is really not much harder. Assembly is really good for copying large chunks of data or using the floating point unit to do mundane hand-crafted, hand-tuned calculations. It is very hard to beat the compiler's assembly, but it is possible and sometimes applicable depending on what needs to be done. I must confess I don't use it much anymore but I still enjoy using it when the need arises.

axon
12-28-2005, 10:10 PM
Flashdaddee '


flash what? :p

cboard_member
12-29-2005, 01:17 PM
Q for Bubba / Fordy:

How do you use the floating point instructions? I have a feeling all the ones I see dotted around the Quake 2 source code beginning with f have something to do with it, but I can never find any good explanations or tutorials on the subject on the web.

Salem
12-29-2005, 01:33 PM
Mmmm
http://courses.ece.uiuc.edu/ece390/books/artofasm/CH14/CH14-5.html

What about the fstw (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=80387+instruction+set) instruction?

I don't suppose you young'uns are old enough to remember that FPU's were actually separate chips in days of old.

CornedBee
12-29-2005, 02:52 PM
Ah, the glory of the math co-processor. We were so proud!

VirtualAce
12-29-2005, 09:52 PM
For information on the math-coprocessor set of instructions consult the Intel Technical Reference Manual. It is available on their website as a PDF download. Some of us were lucky enough to get this in printed form just before they stopped providing these materials. They use to have a free literature policy and still do, but now they are in PDF form.

valis
12-30-2005, 03:44 AM
masm32 forum
win32asm forum (seems rather broken right now)
fasm forum

For info on assembly you should go to intel and look through their documentation, lots of great info from extensions like sse and mmx to information on microcode and hardware level functionality.

cboard_member
12-30-2005, 04:17 AM
Mmmm
http://courses.ece.uiuc.edu/ece390/books/artofasm/CH14/CH14-5.html

What about the fstw (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=80387+instruction+set) instruction?

I don't suppose you young'uns are old enough to remember that FPU's were actually separate chips in days of old.

Thanks for the link :)
I'll have to find the wikipedia entry on FPU's.