View Full Version : programming obsolete status...

12-15-2001, 09:24 PM
All things that we've needed to program have been programmed

my wise and mysterious uncle said this to me, as he's directing my future to electrical engineering... [which i agree with, since i want to design hardware, not software... i like it as a hobby but for cutting edge, i agree that hardware is where it's at...]

do you agree with this quote? i don't in that a century from now we'll be unimaginably advanced [and hopefully unimaginably standardized]... so we can't do much in the little tyme we have... [unlike back in the ole' one programmer DOS days...] i'd be interested to see what you have to say...

oh, and as such, look, a poll we haven't done before... [all polls _haven't_ been posted...]

12-15-2001, 10:03 PM
I'm sure that not every program has already been programmed, I would tell you which ones don't exist (or I haven't found yet), but those are some of the ideas for Rapapaing Software


12-15-2001, 10:10 PM
hmm... 5 to 0... i probably shouldn't have asked this question in a board of... programmers... :) but continue; i'd like to see what you all think... my uncle said that windows and m$ really have done it all... standardized, defacto... etc... i don't mean to say that having programmed everything means having technologically breached everything, by no means...

12-15-2001, 10:30 PM
NO! It can't end this way! That would mean all my years of constant mocking in Elementary School because I programmed would have turned to null! <- and of course right there is the reason for the mockery. Teachnical terms in my daily language....

Sean Mackrory - licensed nerd

12-15-2001, 10:33 PM
This is a good question. I think it depends on what type of programming your doing. I have friends that are so called 'programmers' in corporate America and all they do is sit in a cubicle...modifying, debugging etc. code that was written 10 years ago by someone that really liked the goto statement.....ALOT (FUN!!!). They have told me that they have never been asked and probably will never be asked to develop anything from scratch because all the companies buisness applications have been done for years. That would just suck.

[and hopefully unimaginably standardized]
On Earth? Boy that would be nice.

12-15-2001, 10:43 PM
well i guess that'd be kinda communist if it was... i like the flexiblity, but would rather have a technology oligopoly rather than monopoly...

12-15-2001, 11:00 PM
What about all the new games and stuff? New operating systems? New drivers for custom hardware? There will always be new programs.

12-16-2001, 12:16 AM
y'know, i suppose if there will always be new hardware, then there'll always be new software... good point, but i'm still more interested in revolutionizing hardware in my career, and software at home... [in my fikky art studio, aka my mynd...]... :)

12-16-2001, 11:05 PM
Still need more games for me!! :p

12-17-2001, 03:02 AM
I write software for R&D hardware.

My job is to write software for OS's, before it is finalised into DSP's. Mostly my stuff is to test or debug others work. This means I am asked to work out how to show off the latest hardware.

Plenty of new stuff to be written, just pays less in R&D than in other fields, but much more interesting to code.

12-17-2001, 09:26 AM
>just pays less in R&D than in other fields, but much more interesting to code.

wow! now that's just about the only software job i could see myself doing then i guess... you'd figure you'd get paid more for that kind of development! when i rule the world, i'm giving you a bonus... :)

12-17-2001, 04:04 PM
Of course not, there is always something new to be discovered.

12-17-2001, 04:10 PM
I already rule the world, remember? I just don't have a crown because govt melted it down into a sceptar (and bashed me over the head repeatedly with it...) Oh, and if you can't understand what I'm talking about, then refer to the "King of the world" thread.

12-17-2001, 05:08 PM

It is all done. Nothing more to do. Let's close up shop. Pack it all away.


12-18-2001, 07:55 AM
needed for what? If you need mankind to survive, yes, everything needed is programmed. If you want an eesy way to hack everything, no.

12-18-2001, 09:32 AM
hmm... i'd want a professional's opinion on the matter... salem? adrianxw? personally i feel that the only programming worth while is either that you are told to do... [if you work] or that which releases your creative juices... i won't question the latter, but even assigned programming has the potential for redundancy...

12-19-2001, 02:57 AM
A little history...

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."

Quote by Charles H. Duell, (commissioner of US Office of Patents), urging President William McKinley to abolish the patents office in 1899.

As the technologies advance, so do the expectations of my customers. My last project here was for a bus/train ticketing system based on a contactless smart card. This card has a processor, volatile and non volatile memory and runs an OS, (called StarCOS). A few years ago, this kind of thing was unimaginable, a couple of years later, the prototypes were appearing, but the card took 4-5 seconds to boot, our customer wanted the card to boot, load a stored program, enter a dialog with a reader, conduct secure cash transactions, record it all and then close down, and by the way, 5 times a second! We did it. I don't know what they will want next, but I do know they will want it.

I can imagine sometime in the future when software has developed to the extent that it is self modifying/morphing and that specifying the requirement is all that will be required, but I think that is a long way off yet, and turn ups in the tech field may cause me to rethink this view.

I voted no.