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jverkoey
09-03-2005, 02:42 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/microsoft-ceo-im-going-to-fing-kill-google/2005/09/03/1125302772214.html

Heh, that kindof thing really makes me never even want to apply for Microsoft with that kind of management.

Opinions?

Boomba
09-03-2005, 02:46 PM
does anone not like the direction the new msn messenger is goin?...what i mean by that is that microsoft is starting to add all these pointless features to msn and I think they blow and just take up system resources...only problem is everyone I know uses it now... I have like almost 100 people on my list.....well heres your chance to try something simple and something that doesnt have pointless features like winks and advertisements. try the google messenger its nice and practical. I think googles gonna rock microsof if they keep up the good work.

7smurfs
09-03-2005, 04:49 PM
This makes me want to want Google to make a Google OS to use over Windows.

sean
09-03-2005, 04:57 PM
"Googlix"

Epo
09-03-2005, 06:40 PM
MSN is very useless. I'm still on their 6.2 release and refuse to upgrade to the newest cause of all the absolutely useless stuff they've added in that somehow manages to kill my computer.


"Googlix"
Sign me up.

digdug4life
09-03-2005, 06:49 PM
Ha! and Gmail is friggn sweet too

7smurfs
09-03-2005, 06:51 PM
"Googlix"
"You can install it on your GMail account!"

nickname_changed
09-03-2005, 07:13 PM
First, I agree with the MSN comments. I love being able to nudge people for no reason as it really annoys them :D but there should be the option to disable all winks/nudges/other stuff.

Second, I think it's hard to treat Microsoft as the red-headed step child in this story. Google stole a Microsoft employee. He broke a contract. This is illegal and Microsoft has every right to be angry. I think Steve's actions are justified. Lee has intimate knowledge of Microsoft's technologies and strategies, and the day after he quit he started at Google.

Microsoft may have tough business tactics, but Google are just as bad. I don't feel Microsoft are the bad guys in this scenario.

linkofazeroth
09-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Microsoft may have tough business tactics, but Google are just as bad. I don't feel Microsoft are the bad guys in this scenario.

Agreed.

Ancient Dragon
09-03-2005, 08:18 PM
Myself, I never use MSN -- I have XP but I don't use MSN. I use FireFox browser and FoxMail.

sean
09-03-2005, 08:57 PM
From a legal standpoint, I agree with stovellp. However, in the long run, the winner of the Google vs. Microsoft war is going to be the one that makes customers happy. Now Google doesn't have quite the customer base that Microsoft does, but they're growing fast, and their products are a huge success with those that try them.

Betazep
09-04-2005, 01:18 AM
That is pretty crazy.

Jaqui
09-04-2005, 01:22 AM
This makes me want to want Google to make a Google OS to use over Windows.

I actually put a bug in thier ears about thier own os.
just by asking if they had such a product under development.
the reply:

no comment, due to corporate secrecy / security policies.

so, I translate that to be:
Google Branded Linux is in the works.

webmaster
09-04-2005, 05:17 AM
From what I understand, that's a pretty stock response when you ask Google about anything related to product development.

sand_man
09-04-2005, 06:27 AM
After all that MS has gone through I think that Google will definitly give them a run for their money. I don't know if a Google OS is probable but it is certainly possible and they have probably already thought about it, but, how many commercial OS's do you know of that a home user might buy? Google have a long way to overcome MS

sean
09-04-2005, 07:56 AM
Google have a long way to overcome MS

Well if you think about it, they're not really true competitors, so it's hard to tell how the battle is going.

I mean, Google makes money mainly through advertizing. Microsoft makes money by selling products. Certainly they'd benefit if the other's products didn't exist, but I use both. I run Windows, use Gmail. Use MSN Messenger, and Google Talk.

Jaqui
09-05-2005, 08:50 AM
~snip~
but, how many commercial OS's do you know of that a home user might buy?

Yup, a good point.
right now, with Google's name being "The Name" online, Thier software being so highly thought of and Stories that slam MS' reputation like this one, if Google bought out Xandros and changed the logos in the distro, documentation altered to reflect Google they would grab a huge chunk of microsoft's market share.

It is a fantastic timing if MS continues thier battles against Google and they put an os out.

sean
09-05-2005, 09:05 AM
Here's the latest from Slashdot:

http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/09/04/2256208.shtml?tid=109&tid=218

http://slashdot.org/articles/05/09/04/2022210.shtml?tid=217&tid=95

adrianxw
09-05-2005, 12:07 PM
Microsoft may have tough business tactics, but Google are just as bad. I don't feel Microsoft are the bad guys in this scenario.

Indeed so.

xErath
09-13-2005, 10:38 PM
I'd vow to kill IE7 dev team..

-=SoKrA=-
09-21-2005, 09:01 AM
I'd vow to kill IE7 dev team..
You mean there's an actual dev team behind it? What the hell are they doing, vacationing?

nickname_changed
09-21-2005, 09:45 AM
right now, with Google's name being "The Name" online, Thier software being so highly thought of and Stories that slam MS' reputation like this one, if Google bought out Xandros and changed the logos in the distro, documentation altered to reflect Google they would grab a huge chunk of microsoft's market share.

It is a fantastic timing if MS continues thier battles against Google and they put an os out.

Oooh, I can't wait! I'll learn GPL (the Google Programming Language), and rewrite our companies 2+ million lines of C++/VB/C# codebase to be compatibile with some branded and badged Linux clone. Then, once I've finished reformatting all of our systems, I'll go and tell all of our clients they need to reformat and reinstall GoogleOS. I don't care they they also have billions of lines of Windows only code, because Google are just the best company in the whole wide world and it'll be as easy as clicking "I'm feeling lucky".

If Google plan to grab a "huge chunk" of Microsoft's market share, thats the sort of changes you're looking at. And until Microsoft Office is linux compatibile, Microsoft aren't going anywhere.

What you heard about Google isn't true. They are a publicly listed company. Guess what that means? No, they don't provide services for the betterment of humanity and because they feel like sharing. They're there to make money, grow, and payback their shareholders, just like everyone else. They have been expanding rapidly in the last few years, generating lots of hype starting with their "innovative"* GMail service, and their stock price is enourmously overpriced.

* GMail became popular because of three things:

1 gigabyte of bandwidth - no other web mail providers had this much space. But when you think about it, adding some extra space isn't exactly a vast technical challenge. Anyone else could have done this easily.
Its got a fast web interface. How is this accomplished? Using XHttpRequest, which was developed as part of INTERNET EXPLORER (you know, by the EVIL EMPIRE FROM HELL known as Microsoft).
Because of it's "invitation" feature. Throwing a party but your house is too small for everyone to come at once? Make it invitation only. It's a great way to deviver a gig of space when your servers have no where near that much space. It also makes you think "I'm so cool, I was invited to GMail and you weren't!" or, "I'm not using GMail, but all my friends have been invited, and so I really want to go".
So, GMail isn't a technically better product, it was just MARKETTED WELL. But do Google have an evil empire dominated only by sleazy marketting to make up for their bad products, the way everyone thinks "Micro$oft" do? No way, because they're google.

They could show child porn on their home page and you'd still think the sun shines from their "I'm feeling lucky" button.

Microsoft are more worried about a slow upgrade to Vista because people are happy to stick with XP, than they are about a Google or Linux.

Oh, and lets not forget this - the SPAWN OF SATAN himself, Bill Gates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates):
Has given away over $28BILLION to charity

And their page on the founders of Google (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin):
As of October 2004, Page and co-founder Sergey Brin are estimated to be worth $7 billion apiece.

The two of them own a lot more stock in Google, and I expect they donate a much lower portion of their money to charity.

jverkoey
09-21-2005, 04:35 PM
So, GMail isn't a technically better product, it was just MARKETTED WELL.

Boo, I think GMail's got a lot more going for it than hotmail. The ability to search my email has been one of the most useful things I've gotten out of it by far. Not only can you search, but it's easy to search, it's fast, and you almost always find exactly what you want.

Even though it may have been marketted well, that's no reason to denounce the nice features they implemented.

sean
09-21-2005, 05:50 PM
And they were the first (if not, someone else did some really crappy marketing) to offer that kind of space free.

kawk
09-22-2005, 10:15 AM
The two of them own a lot more stock in Google, and I expect they donate a much lower portion of their money to charity.

That's because they don't have as much money :p

white
09-26-2005, 06:01 AM
Gmail is great ...I don't really care about microsoft or google
but just put side by side a gmail account and a hotmail account and the differences are far from obvious. Even if google offered a 10mb email I would still prefer it from microsofts...and don't forget for non US users hotmail is still 2MB...:S
Also msn messenger is awfull even the macintosh version 5.0 it may be simple and light but when you have to type 10 times the same thing so as the msg to be send....;( (evil look)