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Brain Cell
03-05-2005, 10:38 AM
General Discussions is experiencing a lack of threads these days , so here is one you can waste your time on ... ;)

I've always been curious about cboard members. Y'know , sometimes when you see guys like <intelligent member name here> you wonder "when did he start learning these stuff?" , "could he be a smart teenager or an experienced old man?" and similar questions.

So i thought of putting some questions here , so we asnwer them briefly and get to kow each others more (technical side) , i'll start :

the questions :


0) where are you from ? :
1) How old are you? :

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

3) What was it ? :

4) What were your motivations? :

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

ok i think these are enough :D


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my answers are :

0) Where are you from ? : Saudi Arabia

1) How old are you? : 19

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : around 16

3) What was it ? : VB :o

4) What were your motivations? : hacking and game programming :o

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
c- books.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? from none to 3 hours

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

i still didn't :o

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
depending on my mood.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
if i'm reading an interesting chapter i might finish it all no matter how hard it is. but normally i read from 5-30 pages when i feel like it.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
its like a weekly thing for me. It lasts from couple of hours to 2 weeks.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
not yet - yes

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
it would be like a dream come true.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
no , i'm still not making (or don't spend enough time to make) useful programs.


*EDIT* Fixed a horrible mistake , sorry about that.

Lithorien
03-05-2005, 10:58 AM
0) where are you from: North Anson, Maine

1) How old are you: Eighteen (18)

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language: Fourteen (14)

3) What was it: A combination. C++ and Assembly.

4) What were your motivations: To learn, to have fun.

5) Do you program as a hobby: Yes.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion: Every option has its pros and cons. I find trial and error to work best, however.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily: I'm constantly learning when I program. I always will be - it is impossible to know everything about a language 100% perfectly. I doubt even the creators know the most efficient way to do everything. So I am always learning, and that's easily 3-4 hours a day.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy: I generally don't release what I write, but when I was 15, I wrote a program that would sort a list of files, alphabetically, for someone to make a playlist from.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood, or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time: I enjoy programming, period. It's an escape for me from the daily grind.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day: I don't generally learn from books. I can't afford any. Instead I go to sites like this and read the forums, see a function, see how it's used, then play with it to see what else I can do. That's fubared my computer a few times, but oh well. It's all in good learning fun. :)

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often: I think everyone does. I do - when I get frustrated at what I am programming and can't figure it out, I take a break.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards, what would you do: I make sure that if I am posting full code, that it works. I've always hated seeing posted code that was broken - that doesn't help anyone.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year: I'm getting better at network programming, but game programming is shaky. I don't really understand OpenGL or DirectX -- I think I need a tutor for those. My mind just won't click.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job: I'd like to.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently: I wish!

Felix
03-05-2005, 11:18 AM
0) where are you from ? : the Netherlands
1) How old are you? : Fourteen (14)

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 13?

3) What was it ? : C++

4) What were your motivations? : game making

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion : I haven't really learned it.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? None.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : Haven't made one yet.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? : I don't do it.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?: Not.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? : about 1 year I've been sick zZz

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? ...

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?: No.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs): No =(

laserlight
03-05-2005, 11:36 AM
0) where are you from ?
Singapore

1) How old are you?
20

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language?
16

3) What was it ?
PHP

4) What were your motivations?
Sort of a natural progression from learning HTML and Javascript to create webpages, but one thing I can remember was wanting to write my own feedback form, process it and store the data somewhere.

5) Do you program as a hobby ?
Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
A combination of methods works best.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
I dont have any set period of time spent on learning.
If there's a need to learn, I do so - but then routine programming also involves learning here and there.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy?
17

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood, or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
I enjoy programming and learning more about it everyday, but of course there are days when I'm too tired or busy with other things.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
It depends on the book, and how much of the subject matter I already know.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Yes, for a day or two, but rarely.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do?
I would help with stuff that I know/remember, but I often do check my answer if I'm not sure of it.
Better to say nothing at all than to knowingly give potential misinformation.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
No, currently I'm working with relational databases.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Yes, or at least a computing related one.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
No, at least not on a regular basis.

MystWind
03-05-2005, 11:55 AM
cool , here it is :

0) where are you from ? : The Netherlands
1) How old are you? : 14

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 13

3) What was it ? : Game Maker LANGUAGE , i just started c++ two weeks ago but Game Maker Language ( www.gamemaker.nl ) helps me alot in c++ . the maker of GM used c++ while writing it.

4) What were your motivations? : Game making :P

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : yes , but when I finnished school I think I'll go study Informatica and make it my job.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

all , chat here , think about other pple there problems , i do read books on c++ but there seem full of errors ( Teach yourself Borland (r) in 14 days I'm talking about )

the online turtourial on this site helps me loads too.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

in holliday as much possible ( like 5 hours or so ) , on school day , 0.5-1hour max.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
13 a gr8 RPG made with GM LANGUAGE , called Recature of the Castle ( RoC )

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
last option , I love c++ , and the MMORPG is going to be somekind of alter ego I never really released , and I am soon possible of releasing it in my own game :)

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
50 an hour , mathematic 10 ( I'm a quite lucky mathematic understander :D ) ( although I always mess up tests :P :( )
11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
nver so far ( been programming c++ for two weeks eh )

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

I say what I think is usefull , I want to help them as fast as possible , so post inmediatly , then I check if its right , if not I'm finding it out and post my final awnser.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
nope , next year , yes.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

yes really , altough I think I rather lead a Programming team , more my kind of thing , but I wanna be bussy with programming later on :) .
15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs) no -- not yet :D MystWind -- my upcomming game will , if its going to be as we hope , get paying members and/or donations.

and back in GM LANGUAGE , I think I made about 50 euros... nothing seriuos , most for games like pacman , arkanoid , and a game like mario ( I considerd it better than mario really :D it was called jacks revenge :P ( and I still don;t know if you write that with an 'a' or an 'e' :P:P:P:P)

thats it :D hope learning about ya'll too :D

ok felix;)

7smurfs
03-05-2005, 11:56 AM
0) where are you from ? :Northern USA
1) How old are you? : 16

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 12 or 13?

3) What was it ? :C++/HTML

4) What were your motivations? : Same as every twelve-year-old programming: games

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :Whem I'm bored enough

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion : By programming
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? Depends, if I'm going to do it I'll spend up to 7 or 8 hours on it

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : Still havn't ~_~

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? Currently based on mood

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day? Depends on the book, that is: zero to infinite

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? Yes - maybe a month

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :Don't know :(
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? No - maybe (hoping so)

14) Are you planning to get a programming job? Hell yeah!

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs) No

Felix
03-05-2005, 12:09 PM
p.s felix , if you don;t do any c programming..... why are you here ???
I used to program in C++ but because I was young back then I thought I'd have a great game engine within a week or two. So I was rather dissapointed when it (obviously) didn't turn out that way. But I still like to troll on the general discussion forums. I barely post though.

MadCow257
03-05-2005, 12:28 PM
0) where are you from ? :
Texas

1) How old are you? :
13

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
9

3) What was it ? :
MicroWorld/LogoWriter :)

4) What were your motivations? :
Fun

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
books

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
about 2 hours

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
I guess 9, cause I made a really cool firework show and people liked that.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Do it all the time

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
40

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
No

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
I always compile stuff before I post it

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
Network - no, possibly
Games - semi, yes

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Yes

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
I'm making a full scale game at the moment, don't know if it has any future. I got a chance to make some money once, but nothing currently.

Salem
03-05-2005, 12:34 PM
Mmm, now I'm feeling really old :(

0) where are you from ? :
UK

1) How old are you? :
40-ish

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
Early teens - yeah, that's before most of the other posters were born.

3) What was it ? :
BBC Basic and then 6502 Assembler.

4) What were your motivations? :
I've forgotten, it was too long ago. Curiosity about how stuff works, and satisfaction from making stuff happen.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yes.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures
All of them in some measure, though to get really good requires lots of practical experience, and a peer group to challenge you.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
Several hours a day, as I recall.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
Same as Q2.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
It's pretty much an everyday activity, whether it's actual coding, or merely doodling ideas for programming.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
Mostly I just read enough of a book to find out how to solve the immediate problem.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Not very often.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
All of them :)

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
OK I suppose on the network front, but it's been a long time since I wrote what could be described as a game. There are many other application areas.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Got one thanks.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
0$ for out-of-office work.

jverkoey
03-05-2005, 12:43 PM
0) where are you from ? :
Canada

1) How old are you? :
17

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
15

3) What was it ? :
C++

4) What were your motivations? :
Wanted to make video games

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yup (though not as much lately because of school)

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures
A mixed with any of the other three

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
4, 5 hours

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
15 (JetPack Jack)

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
I enjoy it every day, but my brain does get fried every now and then and I have to take a break

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I have a bunch of books, but they're all just reference books

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
once a month or so and for a day or two

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
A with a mix of B

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
game programming (at least 2D) I consider myself decent at

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
have two at the moment

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
I made 5 cents off of a math program for the calculator :D

sean
03-05-2005, 12:57 PM
0) Where are you from? :

South Africa, New Zealand, Colorado

1) How old are you? :

17

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

7

3) What was it ? :

BASIC

4) What were your motivations? :

Fun

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :

A combination of all 4

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

An hour or so.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

9 or 10

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

Depends

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

20-30

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

Yes; about a month at a time, probably annually.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

Say everything I can to help answer the question, but point out what is speculation and what is fact.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

Networking, yes. Game programming, some experience, but very little interest.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

Most likely

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

No

Thantos
03-05-2005, 01:00 PM
0) where are you from ? :
California

1) How old are you? :
24

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
13 or 14 I think

3) What was it ? :
BASIC

4) What were your motivations? :
Boredom

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yes and no. I don't get paid to program so I guess it's a hobby but I program to increase my knowledge and hone my skills so hopefully one day I'll get paid.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

All of them. Most people do not learn using just one method. So you must use all your resources.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
I've never really spent time learning in the A then B then C since. I started off figuring out the basics and then as I wanted to do something I learned how to do that. Some days I've programmed for over 12 hours and some days I don't touch it at all.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
Don't know

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Of course. Sometimes I'd get upset and wouldn't touch it for a day or two.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I skimmed the books so I know where to find the material and then I'd refer back to it as needed. Though I have read most of Bjarne Stroustrup's book and I probably read a chapter a day.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Yes, see aboves

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
I've done all three. I've been corrected more times then I'd like to admit.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
I'm fimilar with both to some degree. My talents aren't in graphics which most games require some knowledge of so I don't spend a lot of time in that. However I've been using a Text RPG game to propel my learning for years now, but I don't think I'll ever finish it.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
My plan is to get into robotics which will require programming. I hope to note by a programming monkey though (but hey if the pays good I might)

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
I get paid to tutor programming but I haven't made money directly from my programs.

Micko
03-05-2005, 01:07 PM
0) Where are you from ? : Bosnia

1) How old are you? : 23

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : around 18 first Hello World, but seriously started with 21

3) What was it ? : C

4) What were your motivations? : passing exams :)

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : mostly yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
various tutorials

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? from none to 1 hour

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

I still didn't :

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Mostly depends on my mood

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
Usually 50-100
11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Two - three weeks

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

shoot whatever I think is the right answer, but still I'm asking more frequently than answering

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
Not yet, hardly

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Not really, but who knows

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
No

fungus_mungus
03-05-2005, 01:48 PM
0) where are you from ? :

Planet Earth

1) How old are you? :

23

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

16

3) What was it ? :

C++

4) What were your motivations? :

I'm a hobbist. I love to invent and build things.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

a, b, c, and d

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

2 or 3 hours

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

I haven't made one yet.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

I program every day.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

not many

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

I never get sick of programming.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

b

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

I implement all kinds of software.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

not now

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

no

Darkness
03-05-2005, 03:41 PM
1 19

2 14

3 C++

4 It was a challenge, I've always liked computers

5 I don't really do programming anymore

6 The best way is experience, but of course you also need resources to read

7 There was a period in my life where I'd do almost nothing but read and write programs

8 Probably junior year of high school when I started doing 3D graphics stuff

9 I found most progress came when I was bored and unmotivated, not when I was hyped up and happy

10 I would read five pages a day and spend the entire day trying to fully understand it

11 I'm sick of programming now, I have done very little all school year

12 a

13 I have done a lot of graphics and physics programming but I think games are fundamentally a waste of time

14 No

15 No

Brain Cell
03-05-2005, 05:34 PM
Wow you guys must be waaaay ahead of me. :eek:

When i saw your responses , i went back to my C++ book and finished a whole chapter as a reaction :p .

If i keep up like this (i doubt that) ; my first game would be released by the end of April :)

Kybo_Ren
03-05-2005, 05:58 PM
0) where are you from ? : San Diego, CA, USA

1) How old are you? : 15

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 7

3) What was it ? : QBasic

4) What were your motivations? : Building stuff is fun

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion : Combonation of all of these
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
Depends. From 0 minutes to 10 hours.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : 7. It was a program in QBasic that asked whether a person liked another person in my class or not and stored it.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? Depends on mood.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I don't generally read books (except for references on occasion).

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? Yes. For a few days, maybe every few weeks.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
I try to only do these:
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? Not very good, but I have dabbled in both. I plan to learn sockets programming in much greater depth this year.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job? Yes.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs) Nope.

nickname_changed
03-05-2005, 06:20 PM
0) Australia mate!

1) 18 and 6 months.

2) 13

3) Javascript for a week, then C++ right here at the CBoard!

4) Wanted to make games

5) Yes

6) a (experiencing)

7) About 2-5 hours, 9-15 on weekends!

8) About 17.

9) I program daily at work and often at home, but it does depend on my mood.

10) I tend to use books as more of a reference, but books like CodeComplete I try and do a chapter a night.

11) Never

12) a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.

13) I think I'm pretty good with network programming, not so good with games.

14) I already have one, woohoo! Full time C# developer.

15) Not apart from work.

Dave_Sinkula
03-05-2005, 07:31 PM
0) Where are you from? :

Bismarck, ND, US

1) How old are you? :

34 (for a couple more days)

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

When did the TI-994A come out...1980-something?

3) What was it ? :

BASIC

4) What were your motivations? :

Hm, thought it was a game platform like the Atari 2600?

I later went to college and got my BSEE and programming was not even an afterthought (I had some derogatory term I used to describe those with the computer option). A friend and co-worker introduced me to the embedded side and I discovered it was much easier to change a couple lines of code than to burn my fingers with a soldering iron.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

This stuff here.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :

a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).

Tip: "embellish" your resume and enjoy the trial by fire.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

Hours.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

One of these days... :rolleyes: :p

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

I generally do it about every day; whether or not I'm "into it" depends.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

It has been a while since I've looked at a programming book; a chapter or two.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

I get sick of it sometimes, but never leave it.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

No, no, and no.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

Have one.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

No.

InvariantLoop
03-05-2005, 07:57 PM
0) where are you from ? :
I dont even know anymore, born in albania, grew up in Greece, live in US,NY now
1) How old are you? :
24

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
20, yeah too old

3) What was it ? :
java

4) What were your motivations? :
Was impressed after reading "The hackers manifesto, very good essay i guess

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Not right now, i do it to learn and pass my classes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
that helps a little after you know the basics of a language, reading code on forums like this
b- online tutorials.
a little
c- books.
[b]Most important of all, i have a few books but havent finished none yet
d- courses\lectures
I hate to put college down, but this has taught me nothing at all. thats why i bought the books in the first place.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
Sometimes i study everyday for 3-4 hours reading and doing exercises, sometimes i just read the forums and search for whatever piece of info i can find.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
I have not reached that level yet

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Mood is important.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I try to finish a chapter a day, if its one of those 1 hour lessons of a topic.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Yeah, depends on mood

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
I try to be suree 100%, otherwise i dont post at all, people are quick to give bad rep points when you mess up but when you do something good, they are not as fast.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
No dont think so.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Maybe,

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
No money, i just give money right now, school, books, etc..

Not to show any disrespect or whatever, but Kybo_Ren said
8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : 7. It was a program in QBasic that asked whether a person liked another person in my class or not and stored it.
just curious, what school did you go too? At 7 year old most kids are in first grade learning the ABC, and at your school they were teaching programming?

cerin
03-05-2005, 08:27 PM
0) where are you from ? : USA
1) How old are you? : 15

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 15

3) What was it ? : C++

4) What were your motivations? : Wanted something challenging and I was already a computer nerd so why not?

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : For now

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion : A&B I haven't done c or d.
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? As much as I can considering my sister likes to talk on AIM constantly.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : Yet to happen.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? There was a post about this. There is no particular times I don't want to program its just random.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I don't learn C++ from books, but I'm currently reading A brief history on time by Steven Hawking and I only read about 10 pages a day.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? Yes, around twice a month for about a day each time.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? : I would tell them if I'm not sure about the answer I gave them, but if I know anything about the subject I try to help.
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? No. Possibly.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job? Programming or doctor.......hmmmmm If I were to become a doctor there is a good chance I would make more money.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently?
No.

Xipher
03-05-2005, 10:02 PM
0) Where are you from?
North East Iowa, USA

1) How old are you?
20

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language?
Not counting HTML, as its a markup language 18

3) What was it ?
C++

4) What were your motivations?
It was part of a class for my AA, which I left and am now in a CS major

5) Do you program as a hobby ?
A little bit yea

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion?
Reading and trying it out, Tutorials and Books can both get the job done, but Books tend to be better quality.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
Alot? Seeing as I am still in school, I would say I am still in my "learning" level, then again I think their is always something new to learn :D

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy?
Haven't gotten that far yet

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood, or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Any time.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
Depends, I tend to use them more for reference then straight forward reading.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Haven't yet.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards, what would you do?
Try, and hope if I make a mistake some one with more knowledge corrects me. Although if I don't feel I know enough on the subject sometimes I won't say any thing, or I might give what little insight I have, but state I don't know too much.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not, do you think you will be in the next year? I am currently reading Unix Network Programming Vol. 1 off and on, and I think I have a basic grasp on the subject. Also my AA was in Network administration and engineering (I didn't complete it), but I did get my CCNA.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
That or Network Admin/Systems Admin

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
Nope

Too add, and people feel free to add them to their response
16) If you happen to own any books on programming, which one is your favorite, or if you use websites, which one?
Well, seeing as I use both, my favorite book would have to be The C++ Programming Language (Special Edition) by Bjarne Stroustrup, and my favorite site happens to be here (cprogramming.com).

17) What other lanugages have you learned since you started?
C (The starting point for C++), PHP, Perl, Shell scripting, and ADA (we use it in our Data structures class at UNI (thats the Universities acronym, not short for University, as the teacher used to work for Rockwell Colins writing software for aircraft.)

Lurker
03-05-2005, 10:38 PM
I don't program anyomore. I am interested in languages, interestingly enough currently Arabic :) !اهلن و سهلن (Hope that's right :) )
Anyway:
0 - Arizona, USA
1 - 19
2- 15
3- Javascript (if you consider it so) / C
4- Loved computer games and progressed from the web
5- No
6- Dunno....books and a good teacher I suppose
7- 0 minutes
8- 17, I guess - I never really released things publically and I dont program anymore
9- No, I dont program anymore
10- 0 (see above)
11- Yes, until I decide what to do with my life
12- I use to help them but I usually checked my answers
13- Game programming, I'd be good if I tried but no energy put into it at the moment
14- No
15- No

JaWiB
03-05-2005, 10:43 PM
0) where are you from ? : Washington state

1) How old are you? : 16

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : I guess I was 12 or 13

3) What was it ? : QBasic

4) What were your motivations? : I don't really know...

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures
all of these

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? It varies; maybe a few hours at most

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : Can't say that's happened yet...I mostly program for myself :D

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? Depends on my mood

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day? Don't really know. I haven't been using books except for references for a while

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? I used to. Now it's more I program whenever I don't feel like doing anything else or just have the urge

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
A occasionally, usually B

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? Not really. If I worked hard enough, I probably could be...

14) Are you planning to get a programming job? Not really (except a possible "apprenticeship" over this summer).

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs) Nope



Programming or doctor.......hmmmmm If I were to become a doctor there is a good chance I would make more money.

Just beware of the lawsuits; they get pretty ridiculous.

novacain
03-05-2005, 10:47 PM
0) Where are you from? :

Australia

1) How old are you? :

as old as Salem but act as old as cerin (given the chance.)

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

teens, before the home PC was common.

3) What was it ? :

BASIC I think, didn’t pay much attention.

4) What were your motivations? :

I had pulled a borrowed PC apart and put it back together. Now I wanted to make a game (and record it to a cassette tape!)

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

when I need an app to help me

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :

Depends on the person.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

I still spend 1-2 hours each day learning. Currently how to port very complex SQL from Oracle to SQL Server (PS/SQL to T-SQL) and ASP.NET.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

I love all my apps as they grow-up, then I set them free….

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

Part of team work (in development) is knowing when one of your team-mates is in one of those moods (and leave them to it or get them to 'vent').

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

I look at a specific topic and read all I can.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

Yes. Reading code (currently for online stock trading) for six hours a day (for two weeks so far) can tend to grate / make your eyes bleed…….(4 million lines of asp, VB, C++ and SQL)

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

make clear if I am not 100% sure, give range of solutions.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

some of it.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

Have one.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

Programming used to be a hobby.
Now I contract and/or work full time at my hobby.
The downturn has just made the work less interesting (very luckily for me I still have well paid work)

kermi3
03-06-2005, 12:20 AM
0) where are you from ? : Louisiana, USA currently in Virginia, USA

1) How old are you? :
21 but I still prefer to act younger.

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
10

3) What was it ? :
MicroWorld/LogoWriter ;) and very soon afterwards Basic

4) What were your motivations? :
Fun – I loved the logical challenge

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Not any more. I mostly program in E-Prime now, based on VB, to make psychological tests. It’s a wonderful skill to have to test cognition and reaction times. Of course I'm lazy, so I generally use the GUI interface to setup the program instead of writing it all by hand...

6) What’s the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
A/D – Depends on the person, but I need peer interaction, and teachers don’t hurt either…except when they are clueless.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? I spent 1-2 hrs, I no longer program

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? : 11

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? Most of the time I love to learn

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
40-80 assigned, another 20-50 on my own (usually not programming related)

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
I stopped programming a couple of years ago, not because I was sick of it but because I’d moved on to other interests – i.e. psychology and education.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
A/B. I like to point people in directions so they can figure things out on their own, but I try to be right before I do so.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
I’m not particularly good anymore.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Nope, teaching or psychology

major_small
03-06-2005, 02:58 AM
0) where are you from ? :
»Westchester, New York
1) How old are you? :
»19
2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
»15 or 16
3) What was it ? :
»HMTL, VB6, C++, all around the same time
4) What were your motivations? :
»I just liked logic alot
5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
»yes
6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

»all of the above.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
»you are always in the "learning" level.
8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :
»eh, hard to say... probably just recently - I haven't spread my code around much, but in High School, I did wrote some malicious code that my classmates enjoyed, so maybe a while ago...
9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
»it depends... some days I just feel plain lazy.
10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
»as many as I can get in/as many as I want
11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
»yes, for varying lengths of time... sometimes it'll be a month before I do any real thinking...
12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

»depends on the question,poster,and my mood... and if I'll get a warning for being rude or not. I like to do number b, although it usually takes just a quick compile to check my code...
13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
»no,no.
14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
»yes,maybe.
15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
»I've had offers, but no.

Brain Cell
03-06-2005, 05:28 AM
Ages so far :
below 15 : 3 members
15 to 19 : 12 members
20 to 25 : 7 members
26 to 35 : 1 member
above 35 : 2 members

common starting language : C++ and BASIC
common motivations : making games.



you are always in the "learning" level.I ment the time you were learnning the basics of a language. (things that programming books provide)


I don't program anyomore. I am interested in languages, interestingly enough currently Arabic !اهلن و سهلن (Hope that's right )well actually its اهلا و سهلا . its pronounced as اهلن و سهلن though. Arabic is real tough for foriegn people , i wish you good luck :)

Sang-drax
03-06-2005, 06:59 AM
[B]0) where are you from ? :
Lund/Växjö, Sweden

1) How old are you? :
21

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
7-9

3) What was it ? :
Pascal on a 286 20 MHz

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Not much lately

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
A few hours perhaps

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your firs
t game that people enjoy? :
Probably HyperEdit, 17 years old
http://www.strandmark.com/hyperedit.shtml


13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
Network programming - quite good
Game programming - good, but only 2D

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
No, I like math more, but I'm sure I'll always use programming in solving many problems.
But perhaps I'll work as programmer this summer.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
With one exception, I've only made free programs.

Jez
03-06-2005, 11:38 AM
0) where are you from ? :
England

1) How old are you? :
37

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
about 14.

3) What was it ? :
Texas TI-57 calculator - moved onto Basic soon after.

4) What were your motivations? :
Well I'm interested in electronics, so it seemed a natural progression at the time.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yep.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

Nah. Find a project that interests you. Start coding. When you get stuck, read the manual.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

Varies according to my interest. minutes or hours.


8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :

I wrote a whale - nuking game on my calculator called "Thar she blows" (an excersize in ballistics) when I was 16.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Mood.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
I don't work like that. I might read a book in one, go, or dip into it.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
not really. I might get distracted by something else though.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

I think laserlight said it best. If I'm slightly unsure of something, I don't post.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
Nope. I might learn some win API to do graphics with.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
I suppose I ought to get a job really....

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
No.

Krak
03-06-2005, 11:47 AM
0) Where are you from? :

Conneaut, Ohio US

1) How old are you? :

18

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

16

3) What was it ? :

C++

4) What were your motivations? :

Making video games...I've always had a big imagination, and wanted others to enjoy the fruits of it. Oddly enough, Sonic the hedgehog was a huge motivation too. Silly, huh?

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

Yeah.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :

a- Take a class on it
b- Books
c- Experimenting/Experience

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

Very little...

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first that people enjoy? :

Never really made a good PROGRAM...but I have made 4 platform games in Flash...and also wrote a book on the subject.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

I usually lack the motivation to even do it...

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

I'd say about....15-20 pages?

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

But of course...Not sure how long I don't do it though.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

Jump at the chance to seem smart.;)

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

I'm good at game programming. I wrote a book on the subject (although using Flash as its medium)....it teaches a lot of concepts important for game programming that are mostly universal throughout programming languages. The book's only 70 pages and isn't actually copyrighted or anything...I just wrote it for poops and giggles.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

Yep.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

No.

jEssYcAt
03-06-2005, 04:57 PM
0) where are you from ? :
Pennsylvania, USA

1) How old are you? :
29

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :
12

3) What was it ? :
Basic on a Timex Sinclair with the optional 16K memory expansion pack!

4) What were your motivations? :
Figuring out how a game called SuperMaze worked on that Timex Sinclair

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :
Yes.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
There is no "one way" to learn anything, everyone is different. I find it easier to learn when I read the theory and then put it into practice, even if only with toy example programs to prove the concept. Having someone to bounce ideas off of or to ask for help when I don't quite "get it" is helpful too.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
In college before the money ran out was about 6-8 hours (including class time and sitting up until the wee hours of the morning). After the money ran out, I got a full time job so that was reduced to a few hours on weekends mostly with the occasional all-nighter during the week. I still feel as though I am learning and will forever be, but I know enough of the basics to write a program without referring to references for most things.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :
14. One of my dad's friends used to hold Oscar parties every year and they bet on who would win. I wrote a program in Pascal to keep track of the guesses, picks and who won and it turned out to be a hit with my dad and his friends.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Mood. Full time job and family (including a 2 year old son) makes it difficult to have time or energy to do much of anything nowadays.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
If I pick up a book and start reading it, I'll read a chapter at a time at least. Otherwise it is like listening to someone speak who keeps stopping in the middle of their sentences.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Not really. There are times when I want to do other things more, but it's not because I'm burned out.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.
Usually b. I like to make sure of what I am saying since I don't want to teach a bad or incorrect habit to someone new to programming. It's harder to unlearn a bad habit than to learn a new one.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
I've learned the basics of network programming and written a few telnet style chat programs. Two of my current projects are an online poker game and a mud. I wouldn't say I'm good yet, but I'm working toward it.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Sadly, no. It was always my goal throughout school to do so, but I wasn't able to finish a degree and I've been dissappointed on interviews too often because I don't have that degree.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
No.

16) Segmentation fault (core dumped)
I like that this survey started at 0 :)

CornedBee
03-06-2005, 06:11 PM
0) where are you from ?
Vienna, Austria

1) How old are you?
20

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language?
12. (This is from back-calculation - I don't know for sure when I started, but I know that it was in the transition time between Win16 and Win32. When I started C++, Windows 98 was quite new.)

3) What was it ?
Lingo, Macromedia Director's Basic-based scripting language.

4) What were your motivations?
It was way cool to make these little image do weird things on the screen.
(My first experience in actually making the computer do what I wanted it to was with Adobe Acrobat. I used hyperlinks and Paint drawings to make an interactive house.)

5) Do you program as a hobby ?
Yep. Mozilla and Gentoo hacking.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion?
c- books.
Plus lots of trial and error.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
About 2 or 3 hours, perhaps. I really can't remember.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy?
That would be about 25 ;)
Seriously, though, that must have been some of my JavaScript stuff, so I was 17.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
Depending on mood, but I'm usually in the mood.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
Depends on whether I actively follow along (then it's perhaps 30 or 40) or if I want to read the book (then it's 200-300).

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
I often find myself devoid of ideas what to do. I don't get sick of programming itself.

[”]12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do?[/b]
All of the options. If I know, then I know. If I'm not sure, then I might look it up, but if I'm also in a lazy mood I just post with a disclaimer.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
No and no.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Yep. Or something similar.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
Yes. Little by-demand jobs like JavaScripts or PHP stuff.

nickname_changed
03-06-2005, 08:44 PM
On #15, apart from say teaching or writing software to hack into banks, what else can one do to earn money from programming that doesn't include jobs?

Xipher
03-06-2005, 09:26 PM
On #15, apart from say teaching or writing software to hack into banks, what else can one do to earn money from programming that doesn't include jobs?
Side project that you get payed for?

nvoigt
03-07-2005, 03:59 AM
0) where are you from ? :

Hannover, Germany. ( And mark that second 'n' in there. It's Hannover. Don't dare to leave it out. I don't spell New York as New Ork either. )

1) How old are you? :

Too close to 30 for comfort :)

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

Around 15 I guess.

3) What was it ? :

Omicron BASIC using an Atari ST

4) What were your motivations? :

I'm a control freak. I want my computer to be my slave on command, not my chaotic typewriter that might do what I want occasionally.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

I did. But I have a job and program 8 hours a day. So it's not like I come home and do some additional recreational programming. Sometimes I do on weekends.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

All together. Don't miss out on one. Online tutorials are cheap. Books are better. But you cannot ask a question without a real teacher in a course/lecture. Which in turn isn't available all the time like a good book. Use all.

Another aspect is teaching. You learn a lot by teaching others. I don't think you can rightfully call yourself a master of anything if you haven't taught it successfully.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

With BASIC at school, as much time as the rest of my busy youth would allow... maybe two or three hours per week. With lectures in school, 3 hours per week plus homework. Later 40h weeks with lectures. You don't stop learning after that. Even if you have a job in programming, you are constantly learning ( or better be ).

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :

I made a dungeon master clone at maybe 16, but that wasn't such a huge success given the facts that it had just one level, one kind of enemy and the original Dungeon Master game was available for free on the school yard. However, looking back I like it a lot, because I had no clue about the theory of graphics, but some art & math courses at school were enough to put it together. Looked horrible, had 4 colors and was slow as hell... but it worked.
Built a character builder for AD&D 2nd, which we were religiously playing at that time. This was simpler, but a bigger success. At least with the 3 guys in our group that had an Atari ST :)

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

Every day, or I'd feel pretty miserable in my job. Obviously there are days when you wake up and ask yourself why you didn't become a pornstar, but I guess everyone has those days no matter what you do. ( Maybe except porn stars, a penny for their thoughts *g* ).

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

Depends on the book. If it's easy, I blow through 100 pages an hour, if it's tough stuff, I can ponder over a single page for a week.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

No. If I have the freedom of choice ( i.e. not job related ) I sometimes don't program for weeks. But not because I'm sick of it, but because of priorities. If my day had 48 hours, I would probably squeeze some programming in there as well.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

I try to be sure of what I say before I open my ( virtual ) mouth. That way I gather less feet. But it's just my way of thinking and speaking. I hate people who do it the other way round. But they aren't in programming anyway, compilers aren't fooled by talking much or fast. Compilers only accept short, correct statements. Thats the way I like communication.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

I wrote our servers' network code, so I guess I qualify. But even then, I used other peoples classes and frameworks. CSocket or WINSOCK2, at some point you will call other peoples code and pray.
I know a lot of theory concerning graphics and game programming, but without putting them to the test, I wouldn't say I'm good at it. I'm good at programming and pretty confident that I can learn anything I do not know yet.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

No, one is enough, thanks :)

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

Apart from my job and sometimes working at home for my company ? No :)

ober
03-07-2005, 07:13 AM
0) where are you from ? : Maryland, USA

1) How old are you? : 25

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 18, in college

3) What was it ? : Pascal

4) What were your motivations? : part of my Computer Engineering Cirriculum

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : not so much a hobby, but a second income

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion : online tutorials and just trying stuff

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily? daily? I don't know... depended on the assignment really. 2 hours or so... but not every day. I didn't think it was fun when I started.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? : HA. Probably my early 20's.

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time? I do it all day long and it takes up a fair amount of my time away from work.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day? Again, a stupid question. Who sits around specifying the number of pages to read in a day? I read when I get the chance or if I can't figure something out.

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often? Not too often, but when I do, I just switch platforms or languages.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? : I usually throw down what I know and double check the stuff I'm unsure of, although I don't normally post on the programming boards here since I don't work with any C/C++ projects right now.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year? Neither, no.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job? Already have one.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs) Yes, I have a side business that is becoming more and more lucrative.

dpro
03-07-2005, 02:22 PM
0) where are you from ? : Washington State, (USA of course)

1) How old are you? : 25

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? :

18ish, don't remember exactly when...

3) What was it ? : C

4) What were your motivations? :

I'm a computer nerd, so I just thought programming was really cool.

5) Do you program as a hobby ? :

At times yes, when I have a free moment and feel like thinking.

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :

I would say a,b,c for me. I learn by example, other's examples and reading.

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?

Depends on how serious I am, I can spend up to 6-7hours per day.

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :

Never have really made anything quite like that. I program for my own purposes, generally, and also when a task at work requires me to :)

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?

When I don't feel lazy/tired I will learn/program.

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?

Depends on the book.. upwards of 100 pages if its good...

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?

Sometimes I do, for a week even, just need some time to regroup my thoughts.

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :

Combination of a and b, I want to be able to give back, but I don't want to give a misleading answer if I can help it.

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?

I'm ok at network programming, haven't done too much with games.

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?

Well technically yes... I have one, but overall I've always wanted to help in the creation of things.

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)

I used to do part-time PHP work, so occasionally I will get contract jobs to do more, but since I got hired... I don't have time for it any more :(.

prog-bman
03-07-2005, 04:12 PM
0) where are you from ? : Tucson, Arizona

1) How old are you? : 19

2) How old were you when you started learning a programming language? : 16 or 17

3) What was it ? : BASIC

4) What were your motivations? : To make games

5) Do you program as a hobby ? : Yes

6) Whats the most effective way to learn programming in your opinion :
a- Experiencing (without reading books or tutorials).
b- online tutorials.
c- books.
d- courses\lectures

All of the above

7) When you were in the "learning" level (or if you are currently), how much time do you spend on learning programming daily?
4-5 hours

8) How old were you when you made your first program that people loved or your first game that people enjoy? :
18

9) Do you program\learn depending on your mood , or its something you enjoy doing every day and all the time?
All of the time man I am such a loser

10) If you learn from book(s) , how many pages do you read a day?
When I score a book which is rare I will knock down 30-40 pages depending of how good I fell

11) Do you "get sick" of programming and leave it for a while? how long and how often?
Sometimes I get angry and leave for a couple of days

12) When you think that you can help someone in the programming boards , what would you do? :
a- Help them with stuff i know\remember.
b- Try to be %100 sure of your answer before posting either by google , compiling codes or any other way.
c- say whatever i know even if im not so sure.

All of the above

13) Are you good at network and\or game programming? if not , do you think you will be in the next year?
Decent, yes

14) Are you planning to get a programming job?
Yes

15) Do you make money out of programming currently? (not talking about jobs)
I wish :)

Zach L.
03-07-2005, 04:57 PM
Hannover, Germany. ( And mark that second 'n' in there. It's Hannover. Don't dare to leave it out. I don't spell New York as New Ork either. )
New Ork is definitely bad, though you might be able to get away with Nyork. :)