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ober
01-24-2005, 09:17 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&e=1&u=/ap/20050124/ap_on_hi_te/firefox_co_creator

Discuss.

Rouss
01-24-2005, 09:23 AM
I wish I helped make firefox when I was 17... I'll never get that year of my life back. :(

Darkness
01-24-2005, 12:46 PM
I thought that was pretty impressive. I just downloaded firefox after reading that and am posting my first message with it.

RoD
01-24-2005, 01:04 PM
i still perfer opera, but thats cool.

Shadow
01-24-2005, 01:12 PM
If Firefox could zoom everything like Opera does, versus Firefox's ability to only zoom text, I'd say Firefox hands down. But Opera is neat for that feature.

Other than that I see no real big difference for me. I still use Firefox and like it better cause it has a larger viewing window.

PING
01-24-2005, 01:33 PM
dont forget the mouse gestures in opera. are they available in firefox as well?? i am not sure. the zoom feature is really nice though.

Perspective
01-24-2005, 01:38 PM
>>dont forget the mouse gestures in opera. are they available in firefox as well??

yes. http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#mousegest

RoD
01-24-2005, 02:32 PM
statistics dont lie :)

http://cgi.sfu.ca/~gpeters/cgi-bin/pear/battle.php?word1=opera&word2=firefox&key=&B1=Submit

Shadow
01-24-2005, 02:34 PM
statistics dont lie :)

http://cgi.sfu.ca/~gpeters/cgi-bin/pear/battle.php?word1=opera&word2=firefox&key=&B1=Submit (http://cgi.sfu.ca/%7Egpeters/cgi-bin/pear/battle.php?word1=opera&word2=firefox&key=&B1=Submit)

But they are capable of being incredibly biased. Not that I care, it's a damn internet browser dude, I have IE, Opera, and Firefox all on my PC. I use Firefox though.

prog-bman
01-24-2005, 02:39 PM
Ah but yes you do relise opera has meaning outside of a web browser :)

Shadow
01-24-2005, 02:42 PM
Ah but yes you do relise opera has meaning outside of a web browser :)

Such as what?

prog-bman
01-24-2005, 02:46 PM
opera \"a-pre, -pe-re\ n : a drama set to music operatic \'a-pe-"ra-tik\ adj
(c)2000 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.xx

fuh
01-24-2005, 02:48 PM
How about this:
http://cgi.sfu.ca/~gpeters/cgi-bin/pear/battle.php?word1=opera+browser&word2=firefox+browser&key=&B1=Submit

RoD
01-24-2005, 02:54 PM
touche'

is like amd vs intel, ati vs nvidia, etc. Ive used all the afore mentioned nd i love opera. I'm on beta 8 version right now.

Darkness
01-24-2005, 02:55 PM
I remember we were having problems with a homework problem in our ECE class because of something with an old version of Java virtual machine. The professor suggested trying another web browser, and the nerds in the class actually started fighting over opera versus firefox. I honestly wanted to just stand up with a bazooka and send them all to hell because nobody should care that much about a web browser DAMMIT!

Ok I feel better. Oh yeah I installed that mouse gestures extension for firefox, thx perspective.

prog-bman
01-24-2005, 03:08 PM
Yea firefox owns rod and you suck so just face it.
p.s I really don't care which one you like as long as you don't use IE as your "primary" browser :)
Oh and rod you don't suck that bad ;)

RoD
01-24-2005, 03:10 PM
opera has less security issues, more speed, more options, what more could you want? As for viewing space in opera being too small, i never have to use side scroll bars at all, and have never had a issue with not having enough viewspace.

Darkness
01-24-2005, 03:16 PM
You don't have size problems with opera to make up for your 'other' size problems.
















pervert, I was talking about his nostrils not being big enough to put two markers in each.

<napoleon voice>
edit: but I shouldn't have even bothered putting all of those extra lines in there because rod is so cool because his viewspace is so huge that he can see both parts of my message at once.

god!
</napoleon voice>

prog-bman
01-24-2005, 03:18 PM
Browsers are like cars, everybody likes a certain car even if one is more secure or has more options. Someone might like a lesser options more simple car with less "security". I personally love my Jeep. Does everyone else here think that jeeps are the best? No but do I think they are, yes :)

MadCow257
01-24-2005, 04:12 PM
Wow, another kind of firefox VS Opera thread.


I wish I helped make firefox when I was 17... I'll never get that year of my life back.

You've inspired me to work harder :)
I can set some kind of world record...
Youngest person to create a succesful retail game, w00t!

sean
01-24-2005, 04:19 PM
What would you rather watch?

A pasty white fat woman who can fall off all four sides of the bed simultaneously.
A gasoline-doused fox jumping through flaming hoops.
I rest my case...

RoD
01-24-2005, 04:19 PM
jeeps rock dude. have an 89 wrangler with a 454 eng, 700r4 trans, 6in bod lift, 4in susp lift, 35in tires, 8klb winch and a host of other gadgets. We have rockwell top loader military axels for it and 44in tires, just gotta put em on. ill run out and snap a pic of it.

RoD
01-24-2005, 04:24 PM
kinda dark out and snow is falling so its not the best pic ever.

Hunter2
01-24-2005, 04:59 PM
>>A pasty white fat woman who can fall off all four sides of the bed simultaneously.
That could be interesting to see. I wonder if RoD's jeep could handle her?

Kleid-0
01-24-2005, 06:33 PM
Hey I'm 17, I'll work on Firefox too! Maybe then I won't have to join the Marines, :'(

axon
01-24-2005, 06:48 PM
jeez rod, how many cars do you freagin have?

RoD
01-24-2005, 07:09 PM
good question honestly. Counting me and my dad:

91 Stealth
89 Jeep
87 Rx7
82 collector's Vette
88 Camaro x 2
? Escort
93 Mustang - well, part of it LOL
? Chevy p/u
? Datsun p/u
01 Civic
97 Chevy conversion van

hmm, 12. Damn, we have alot of cars. I'll attach a pic of the stealth too. The only one i have of the vette is from my dad/step mom's honeymoon in tennesee and i dont feel like people telling me its not mine because its a way diff scenery around it lol.

psychopath
01-24-2005, 07:56 PM
>>Youngest person to create a succesful retail game, w00t!<<
how old are you?

grrr....I started when I was 10....i'm programming a game engine now at 14....why can't i get a job offer?...stupid rural community in the middle of nowhere that noone knows about :(

-psychopath

MadCow257
01-24-2005, 08:20 PM
>>how old are you?
13

>>i'm programming a game engine now at 14
Good for you, what kind of engine you making? I would try and make a FPS myself except for the fact that I have no means to make the high quality graphics that would be required in a retail game.

>>why can't i get a job offer?
I know! There has to be some way I can make some money this summer from programming.

RoD
01-24-2005, 08:23 PM
good luck, im 20 and still looking.

jverkoey
01-24-2005, 08:40 PM
17 and still looking for a decent job :rolleyes: blegh, I've got a pretty good portfolio of games/software ATM, but haven't really gotten lucky enough to have someone hire me yet.

Hunter2
01-24-2005, 09:06 PM
Maybe if you do some volunteer programming they'll hire you when a spot opens up? Or maybe they'll be eternally grateful to you and make generous donations :D

Rouss
01-24-2005, 09:17 PM
You've inspired me to work harder :)

Well, I'm glad that wasted year of my life served some purpose... You think I can get yahoo to do a story on me?

VirtualAce
01-24-2005, 09:23 PM
That Stealth isn't a RT/4 and it doesn't look like the twin turbo version, but still nice car.

RoD
01-24-2005, 09:35 PM
its not the AWD TT, but it is a RT.

91 Stealth RT. Its one of only 36 produced as an RT model with every option but a sunroof. Which is fine by me, because even in poor condition my feature/color combination in a RT package makes it worth 3500.00.

i'm not keeping it, its getting a fresh coat of paint and going up for 3k obo in about a month. Want a pickup.

JaWiB
01-24-2005, 09:52 PM
>>I know! There has to be some way I can make some money this summer from programming.

I found a way...well sorta...I'm applying for an apprenticeship program (ASE (www.aseprogram.org)), and you get $1000 to cover expenses. Good experience anyways, but it will be a lot of work. Not to mention commuting 60+ miles every day. Quite a few of the positions are programming related, so I have a decent chance at it.

But I still might not get accepted...

psychopath
01-25-2005, 01:27 PM
>>Good for you, what kind of engine you making? I would try and make a FPS myself except for the fact that I have no means to make the high quality graphics that would be required in a retail game.<<
The engine will be open-source and will hopfully support first-person games as well as third-person.
The graphics don't necessarly have to be high-quality. Average graphics with great gameplay is still a good game.
BTW, if your interested in helping out, give me a PM :)

-psychopath

B0bDole
01-25-2005, 04:42 PM
www.sourceforge.net is a good place to hop onto opensource projects, as we all should know.

Kleid-0
01-25-2005, 05:04 PM
I wonder if it would be hard to edit Firefox so that on the menu instead of saying "Bookmarks" it says "Yee hah!!". Hmm!

kermit
01-25-2005, 05:13 PM
I wonder if it would be hard to edit Firefox so that on the menu instead of saying "Bookmarks" it says "Yee hah!!". Hmm!

I have a friend who was a little skeptical about FF when he first saw it - he made a semi-negative comment on how it has 'bookmarks' instead of 'favorites' as IE has it - guess he's a little cynical - anyway, maybe he would have liked your idea, Kleid-0. Of course it took him less than a day to get hooked on FF

~/

psychopath
01-25-2005, 06:14 PM
@ Kleid-0: Nice sig...spongebob is awesome!!!!11one

-psychopath

Kleid-0
01-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Thank you :P

Thantos
01-25-2005, 06:30 PM
I wonder if it would be hard to edit Firefox so that on the menu instead of saying "Bookmarks" it says "Yee hah!!". Hmm!

Back in Win 95 and Win 98 you could rename the start button and the basic menu items. Some friends and I changed the school computers so that Run was Walk adn things like that. Oh and for anyone who knows of the program that let you change the start button name, our way was so much better as we weren't limited to the 5 character limit that program was.

Kleid-0
01-25-2005, 06:39 PM
If you wanted to go over 5 characters, did you have to buy the "Pro" version? lol. I hate it when they do that!

Thantos
01-25-2005, 06:50 PM
Nope. It was a direct editing of the exe. They used a character prior to the start of the string to denote how many characters were in the following string.

sean
01-25-2005, 09:22 PM
Some friends and I changed the school computers so that Run was Walk adn things like that

I like taking a screenshot of someone's desktop (icons and all) and setting it as their wallpaper. I then of course, delete all their icons.

Another fun one is causing chaos in Word's AutoCorrect feature.

(Credit to the Dilbert Newsletter for the above office-pranks)

Kleid-0
01-25-2005, 09:27 PM
I then of course, delete all their icons.

Another fun one is causing chaos in Word's AutoCorrect feature. You're horrible!! YOu're horrible!! *slams the door*

MadCow257
01-25-2005, 09:39 PM
Some friends and I changed the school computers so that Run was Walk adn things like that

Lucky! At my school the admin knows little about computers and considers anything he doesnt know how to do bad.
I.E.
Tthey claim going into the command prompt is illegal on the grounds that it is "breaking into the system." Not only is that incorrect, (because if you press f-1 and choose boot into safe mode with command prompt it doesn't ask for a password or anything, not to mention I know 3 others ways to get into that would be a little bit more questionable :P), it doesn't even mention anything about it or something similar in the ToS.


I then of course, delete all their icons.

That's awesome if the person you do it to doesn't know much about computers, if they do they'll figure out real fast. Instead of deleting icons I choose the non-harmful method of simply moving all the icons off screen.


Another fun one is causing chaos in Word's AutoCorrect feature.

I can imagine some applications involving cuss words...=)

Thantos
01-25-2005, 10:14 PM
I like taking a screenshot of someone's desktop (icons and all) and setting it as their wallpaper. I then of course, delete all their icons

Even more fun:
Take a screen shot
Set as background
Rearange Icons
Repeat until every position is filled with an icon and make their real icons randomily assigned a location

Darkness
01-26-2005, 02:38 PM
Sounds like a bad case of some l337 script kiddies getting ahold of subseven.