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cerin
01-06-2005, 05:25 PM
grrrrrrr I use spysweeper to help me with spy/ad ware but a few ads still get through unless I sweep at startup I am bombarded. Any suggestions?

Edit: Yes I know some anti spyware programs use spyware themselves...

MadCow257
01-06-2005, 05:28 PM
If you ran both of those, then isn't there a good chance the pop ups are coming from the internet, and not spyware. Maybe you need a better pop up blocker?

cerin
01-06-2005, 05:30 PM
hahahaha the pop ups come when I'm not using my browser I have ruled out simple solutions. I use firefox as well.

Brian
01-06-2005, 05:30 PM
http://www.io.com/~cwagner/spyware/

cerin
01-06-2005, 05:36 PM
I previously used spybot S&D and as far as I can tell spysweeper is better. And if it was from my browser do you really think I might get porn ads from this site? I don't get them as much as before. My dad is the one looking at porn and if the computer has the slightest problem he blames it on my games which I don't have anymore since we have win xp and they run slower. Plus they are games like half-life. Someone my mom works with is a computer technichian and he said games screw the comp up and I asked my mom if she told them they were from the store and updates downloaded from sites like fileplanet.com.
Then I told her to ask him what porn does and she just said no :mad:

My dad knows absolutely nothing about comps. He thought he did when he took a class and had an old ass emachine comp for a long time. When we first got this comp he did not realize the desktop icons were clickable and he used the run prompt in the startup menu. AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA :p

Brian
01-06-2005, 05:38 PM
Download hijackthis from here http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html and post your log here. (Don't remove anything with it unless you're sure it's bad, it detects even legitimate stuff).

VirtualAce
01-06-2005, 05:38 PM
Games run slower with WinXP? This ought not to be. WinXP handles memory much much better than any of its predecessors. Perhaps there is more going on in your system than just ad/spy ware.

cerin
01-06-2005, 05:39 PM
yes it manages better, but windows xp as a whole slows down the comp.

Brian
01-06-2005, 05:41 PM
Games run slower with WinXP? This ought not to be. WinXP handles memory much much better than any of its predecessors. Perhaps there is more going on in your system than just ad/spy ware.

Apart from Windows 2000. Windows 2000 is windows xp without the playschool bullsht.

cerin
01-06-2005, 05:45 PM
I've been sweeping this entire time and it just found a trojan and wildmedia adware.

VirtualAce
01-06-2005, 05:46 PM
yes it manages better, but windows xp as a whole slows down the comp.


Therein lies your problem. It shouldn't.

cerin
01-06-2005, 05:50 PM
It is suppose to my computer is fairly old and it does. Tom the computer technichian I spoke of earlier told us it would.

alpha
01-06-2005, 07:16 PM
It is suppose to my computer is fairly old and it does. Tom the computer technichian I spoke of earlier told us it would. weird.. hmm.. how much ram do you have?

Scribbler
01-06-2005, 07:37 PM
Tom the computer technichian I spoke of earlier told us it would.
I'd probably have to question Tom the CT. I have XP installed on some really ancient machines and they run better than 98/ME ever did. XP utilizes much less mem (edit: rather I should say, it eats Far Fewer Resources).

sean
01-06-2005, 07:42 PM
Apart from Windows 2000

I'll second that - I've got 2000 running fine on a machine that just crawls with XP. Though I'd have to say, I think XP is a far superior OS to 2000. The early NT-systems were rushed, IMO.

Govtcheez
01-06-2005, 07:46 PM
The early NT-systems were rushed, IMO.2000 was NT 5, though :confused:

Lithorien
01-06-2005, 07:50 PM
I disagree with XP being a superior OS. Too many "features" were added to XP that crippled its ability.

At default settings, XP takes up more system resources than any OS that I have ever seen put out by Microsoft. Even tweaked, it seems to take more than even 2K or ME.

Just my 2cp.

sean
01-06-2005, 07:59 PM
Just my 2cp.

If I say, "Penny for your though?", and someone proceeds to give me their "Two cents", then that means... ooh...

I'm not saying XP takes up less space. I just prefer it over 2k any day - though I probably use the backwards compatability more than most people.


2000 was NT 5, though

Ha ha - yeah. I was pretty much referring to everything Pre-XP and post-98

gcn_zelda
01-06-2005, 08:14 PM
I disagree with XP being a superior OS. Too many "features" were added to XP that crippled its ability.

At default settings, XP takes up more system resources than any OS that I have ever seen put out by Microsoft. Even tweaked, it seems to take more than even 2K or ME.

Just my 2cp.
You can't honestly say you think ME is better than XP.

XP is better than ME.


And that's not an opinion.

Scribbler
01-06-2005, 08:14 PM
At default settings, XP takes up more system resources than any OS that I have ever seen put out by Microsoft. Even tweaked, it seems to take more than even 2K or ME.
Where do you get this statistic from? Here is a benchmark (http://tech-report.com/reviews/2001q4/os/index.x?pg=1) which shows an entirely different result. A well documented benchmark, with a summary containing the quote....

Windows XP signifies the end of the 9x core. Based on our tests, users of WinME (and likely any other 9x-based OS), should upgrade immediately. WinME just can't keep up with the NT core, and upgraders will see large improvements in stability as well.

Between the new GUI, the WPA and the feature creep, there are plenty of reasons to bag on Windows XP, but performance isn't one of them. Bloated or not, from a performance standpoint, Windows XP is a worthy successor to 2000

It's worth checking out, all the numbers are made available for study.

cerin
01-06-2005, 09:03 PM
I don't know how much ram I have :( I'll tell Tom about what you guys said and see what response I get.

MadCow257
01-06-2005, 09:09 PM
If you want to know more about your pc (including finding your RAM) go to start/settings/control panel then click "system". One my pcs said it had 127 ram which is kind of wierd, and another one when you go to hardware manager in the BIOS it says the temp is 200 something degrees celcius. These are trivial mistakes though.

Lithorien
01-06-2005, 09:18 PM
I will agree that on some PCs, XP will run faster. Plain and simple. But for some reason, benchmarking my OWN PC, XP slows it down by about 20% in terms of how everything opens, load times, CPU usage comparisons, etc.

Maybe it's just a fluke.

Lithorien
01-06-2005, 09:19 PM
You can't honestly say you think ME is better than XP.

XP is better than ME.


And that's not an opinion.



..Ok, you have a point there. :)

Kleid-0
01-06-2005, 10:10 PM
You forgot linux in the boolean expression!

Linux > XP > ME

:) (I feel a very bad flame war coming...)

RoD
01-06-2005, 11:01 PM
this threads going nowhere fast. and try a damn search we just covered spyware. Jebus.

sean
01-07-2005, 02:18 PM
I think Cerin's in love with Tom. Like that episode of Seinfeld where George had a crush on Tony...

novacain
01-08-2005, 12:32 AM
>>I don't know how much ram I have

On a low end machine (old) and playing games I would recomend 2000.

XP needs much more RAM / CPU leaving very little for your games.

Also close ALL apps running in the system tray (unless you explicitly need them ie firewall while on 'net)

cerin
01-08-2005, 01:06 AM
hahaha I should have mentioned earlier Tom is studying to become a CT right now he works at wal-mart.

B0bDole
01-08-2005, 09:22 AM
>I will agree that on some PCs, XP will run faster. Plain and simple. But for some reason, >benchmarking my OWN PC, XP slows it down by about 20% in terms of how everything >opens, load times, CPU usage comparisons, etc. Maybe it's just a fluke.

Turn off everything that XP loads on default... EVERYTHING...the cool looking pretty stuff... I can't remember specifically what to do, someone help me out here.

Govtcheez
01-08-2005, 09:33 AM
start->run->msconfig->startup

B0bDole
01-08-2005, 11:11 AM
I meant all the visual stuff too, like animated stuff.... XP style and what not, thats what uses so many resources

RoD
01-08-2005, 03:24 PM
right click my comp --- advanced ---- performance ---- visual

RoD
01-08-2005, 03:25 PM
for the record, i have all that stuff turned on, 7 programs running in the system tray, winamp, teamspeak, and americas army with 4 other players on the same connection: i never miss a beat in XP.

If you configure your computer right, you wont either.

cerin
01-08-2005, 07:03 PM
What hapens if I change my page files the description is page files are a place on the hard drive that the computer uses like ram.

For the record I can't open firefox when cuteftpro is dl'ing I have shareaza open and spysweeper sweeping.

RoD
01-08-2005, 07:30 PM
xp knows well enough to let it set its own page file. its not like 98 and older nt versions, u wont notice much of a difference.

dagdarian
01-10-2005, 11:06 AM
You forgot linux in the boolean expression!

Linux > XP > ME

:) (I feel a very bad flame war coming...)

I tend to agree, the all-round different in speed must be well.. quite an :o embarrasment :o for microsoft