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Kleid-0
12-23-2004, 12:34 AM
I keep getting this silly 144KB email virus that keeps landing in my junkbox. It has to be a virus because it for one they're all 144KB, I opened one up and it obviously had an attachment because when I replied I'd see something like:
<<multipart1>>
or something like that. And plus they have random names, like the 2 I just got today are titled:
Administrator and
MS Internet Email De...

I'm running Linux, so hopefully the malware isn't taking over my baby computer. Plus I have an Apache webserver, my baby server, and my baby computer :(

Why can't they just leave me alone!!!!! *plugs ears and rocks back and forth*

cgod
12-23-2004, 01:10 AM
A 144kb virus :0 well it cant be that good its too big

nvoigt
12-23-2004, 02:35 AM
There is no way to judge if it's too big if you don't know what it does. 144KB is slightly bigger than needed to send itself and format C:\, but it's a real short piece of art if it can take over the world in 144KB.

sand_man
12-23-2004, 04:22 AM
what file format is the attachment?
anyway, being on linux your a lot safer than a windows user.

VirtualAce
12-23-2004, 05:08 AM
I could literally thrash your system, erase your partition information, flash your BIOS, and/or frag your OS in 144 kb of pure assembly code.

Don't load it and don't run it. Just delete it. Size does not matter given that most instructions in assembly are simply opcodes of a few bytes. You can fit a lot in 144 kb. To give you an idea of how powerful assembly is...your computer boots up on 512 bytes of assembly code and then loads other sectors but I would imagine the whole code base is less than 144 KB that boots your system everyday.

I think my fellow assembly language programmers on this board would agree with me that 144KB is a lot of code.

misplaced
12-23-2004, 05:50 AM
A 144kb virus :0 well it cant be that good its too big

like you'd know

kermit
12-23-2004, 06:45 AM
like you'd know

hey, he's got like six red boxes for user feedback. He is a guru.

:rolleyes:

~/

RoD
12-23-2004, 10:40 AM
like you'd know

your an idiot, if you get any more retarded i may actually have to feel sorry for you. go chew on some drywall.

algi
12-23-2004, 01:48 PM
how can anyone think that because a virus is big, is that it's rubbish.

Kleid-0
12-23-2004, 02:17 PM
"Infections that spread through e-mail attachments-the source of macro viruses-increased from 32 percent in 1998 to 56 percent in 1999. E-mail attachments are the biggest source of macro viruses, while diskettes are the typical carrier for boot-sector viruses." -What is a Virus (http://churchofireland.net/avlinks/avback.html)

Well when I open the email, there is no attachment image for me to download, and the <<multipart1>> doesn't give it away either. I bet one of my friends has me on their address list on Outlook or something I keep becoming a receiver of their infected computer.

-KEN-
12-23-2004, 03:05 PM
hey, he's got like six red boxes for user feedback. He is a guru.

:rolleyes:

~/

Make that seven ;)

sean
12-23-2004, 03:30 PM
For pure assembly, that is indeed a lot of code. You could do an awful lot with someones computer in that amount of space. The other part to what nvoight said, however, is the virus replicating itself and sending itself through email systems. Still not a huge task, but I think that takes the numbers up somewhat.

I would also advise against even opening the email. Opening the email does give the email's code enough power to let it's creator know you've opened it, and when, etc... (probably used by these big advertizing networks that collect as much information as possible - most of the stuff cleaned out of my PC by adaware is cookie-storage from such organizations) It can also load JavaScript applications, some of which can in various ways force you to restart your computer. I've seen one when it covered 95% of the screen and would move when the mouse got anywhere near the edges - bad if you just wrote a lot of source code and forgot to save.

Anyway... to cut a long story short - stay as far away as possible. It's not enough to simply not download the attachment. And if you must reply (*sigh*) at least give them the phone number from another junk email and tell them it's yours. You have a responsibility to introduce idiots to eachother.

VirtualAce
12-23-2004, 04:32 PM
Make that seven.

I'm trying to make it eight.

sand_man
12-23-2004, 05:30 PM
I'm trying to make it eight.
Ill help

B0bDole
12-23-2004, 06:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
I'm trying to make it eight.

Ill help

Ditto

misplaced
12-23-2004, 06:55 PM
your an idiot, if you get any more retarded i may actually have to feel sorry for you. go chew on some drywall.

my what is an idiot?

Jez
12-24-2004, 02:04 AM
I think my fellow assembly language programmers on this board would agree with me that 144KB is a lot of code.

Sure, I've seen whole OS's in much less than that! Remember the eighties?

sand_man
12-24-2004, 07:38 AM
There are a few people on this board who "... have probably written their own OS in 10KB"

VOX
12-24-2004, 08:42 AM
I've seen assembly and it has to be the most un-readable language there is. I don't know how you guys can learn it and remember what all those 3 letter things do!

Quantrizi
12-24-2004, 08:54 AM
I've seen assembly and it has to be the most un-readable language there is. I don't know how you guys can learn it and remember what all those 3 letter things do!
I believe you've answered your own question...JNZ = jump not zero, NOP = no operation (or something like that), shl = shift left, etc...

sean
12-24-2004, 10:56 AM
There are a few people on this board who "... have probably written their own OS in 10KB"

If it wasn't for stupid network drivers, I would've...


I've seen assembly and it has to be the most un-readable language there is. I don't know how you guys can learn it and remember what all those 3 letter things do!

Not quite. Assembly was actually created for the express purpose of being easy to read. That was of course, back when the only alternative was pure machine code written in binary :D

Thantos
12-24-2004, 10:57 AM
Since we are on the subject of assembly:

AT&T Syntax > Intel Syntax
:p

sean
12-24-2004, 11:00 AM
System 370 > AT&T :p

Thantos
12-24-2004, 11:29 AM
Never!

VirtualAce
12-24-2004, 03:54 PM
Intel > AT&T in all cases.

Thantos
12-24-2004, 04:02 PM
Keep telling yourself that Bubba. What has intel produce vs what has AT&T produce in the case of programming languages?

Jez
12-24-2004, 04:08 PM
Oh god ! intel fanatics

give me a 68000 any day !

Salem
12-24-2004, 04:10 PM
The topic went that-away ->>>>>>>>>>>

Or for those in England, a seasonal reference
<panto>"Where's the topic?"
"It's behind you!"</panto>