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12-11-2004, 04:39 PM
Is anyone here interested in computational linguistics?

12-11-2004, 05:18 PM
I've never really thought of computational linguistis, but I am interested in linguistics and the use of language in general.

12-11-2004, 05:28 PM
I love you for starting this thread :) .

I see you got my private message, then? I'm extremely interested in all aspects of linguistics - I'd like to see who else is too.

Zach L.
12-11-2004, 05:35 PM
I am.
Perhaps not so much in the computational side if by computation, you mean by a computer, but if you mean natural language processing as done by the human mind, then I am very interested in that field.

12-11-2004, 08:44 PM
I am interested in NPL as well - it is a big part of my AI project.

12-11-2004, 09:11 PM
I im interested in NLP too, lately ive been reading up on question answering

12-11-2004, 11:14 PM
Wow! I'm very surprised at the amount of response! Great to hear!

I'd love to know what sorts of things you folks have been working on. Also, I would also like to learn more about cognitive psychology and education as well. Next quarter I'll be taking a language acquisition course and a language and the brain course, those should be excellent to appease me. Let's hope I don't neglect engineering... =)

Zach L.
12-11-2004, 11:26 PM
You sound a bit like me. :)
I'm planning to go for a physics/linguistics and philosophy double major. I'm working on getting in on some research for language processing and cognitive issues of language next semester.

12-11-2004, 11:36 PM
Oh dear,

I hope you find ways to relate it. It would seem you may be in the same field as me, doing mostly phonetics work. But I am interested in quite a few things as it stands. At the moment I'm trying to finish electrical engineering, computer engineering, and linguistics. So... then I guess I'll have to... program the pre-processing analog circuit which isolates... only the right speech of a conversation... and then um... yeah... something like that.

And you have a terribly clever and funny signature. Kudos on that one!

Zach L.
12-12-2004, 10:09 AM
Haha... Yeah, they are a bit disparate. I ran across the work of Joachim Lambek not that long ago, and he definitely has some very interesting ideas dealing with categorical grammar. I especially am fond of his application of abstract algebra (computational algebra more precisely) to the problem of language processing.

And you have a terribly clever and funny signature. Kudos on that one!
:D Thanks, I was quite proud of it.

12-13-2004, 01:12 AM
I am currently a senior in highschool... I have had a very hard time deciding what to major in (or at least claim to want to major in). on some applications I would put an English (linguistics/creative writing) major, and on others, engineering. What are you guys doing in school and what would you recomend?

I read Zach L. 's post and it seems that seems very enticing.
Zach -- what exactly are your plans for this and how exactly are you going to pull it off (what classes and in what time frame)

12-13-2004, 02:54 AM
It's nice to see more people with interdicipinary tastes.

So far as myself, I am planning on researching speech processing in graduate school and as you might imagine, a background in EE as well as linguistics is a good thing. Before adding linguistics I was planning on doing analog circuits with EE and computer engineering, but, well, things and tongues change. I would recommend doing what you love to do, that alone will get you through to finish at least I would say. But also try to do something practical. Foremost, no matter what naysayers tell you, keep focused on your goals no matter how crazy they seem.

So far as a time frame, you may not believe this, but three bacclaureates in three years flat. If you are curious as to how to do this, schedule-wise, you may ask via a PM. I would be curious to see how Zach's schedule panned out. Needless to say it requires quite a ways summer tuition, and as you might imagine some overlap here and there. If that's not enough to call you to arms, so to speak, you may ask more.

Next quarter's research is my blind forray into phoneme recognition... time for some common sense...

Zach L.
12-13-2004, 08:48 AM
Hmm... I think my time frame budgets for a little more sleep than doubleanti's. ;)
I'm planning on four years for the two degrees. I'm not sure what other information you want, as the specifics will vary from school to school. Essentially, it'll be covering the requirements for the two degrees, the rest of the general requirements, the physics and linguistic electives that I'll both need and want, and research in one of the two fields when I have the time.


12-13-2004, 09:09 AM
wow doubleanti, that is crazy. I don't know that I can manage that schedule as I plan on playing collegiate athletics (:P) also but....

Thanks for the positive reinforncement. From both you and Zach. I have been catching a lot of heat from my fellow peers/teachers as to what I was going to do in college. It seems that I am the only one that has not really "decided" on a college (though I've applied to several) and a degree or profession.

I actually appreciate this thread as I was starting to get a little frustrated inside. :)

anyway... how is the scheduling? do some of the classes that are of different department/ colleges conflict?

12-13-2004, 09:38 AM
I'm not sure if this is quite the same ballpark, but I am very interested in the 'quantization' process that transforms analogue thought structures into concrete symbology, which is generally translated into discrete words or images.

I'm trying to work out the exact threshold between preconscious thought and conscious cognition, and where 'ideas' in the concrete sense come from, and, subsequently, the means and mode of communication used to impart those ideas to others...

12-13-2004, 01:31 PM
That's the beauty of it... it encompasses so many different fields and so many different people coming from different backgrounds!

If you mean taking variations in air pressure in the audio range through a transducer to electrical form, then quantizing that in time and amplitude, then processing it digitally via DFT, then extracting phonemes from the formant shifts and so forth, and then considering where these groups of phonemes fit into a lexical database, building syntactic structures and beyond, then yes that's what it is.

We should work together!

12-13-2004, 04:24 PM
I think my plan is, if I don't find one language I want to major in, I'll take courses in religion, language, and history. I love to learn how to pronounce new sounds, it's really neat to hear what they sound like :) . Anyway the ancient people were incredible; try looking up on the Mayan Calander.

12-29-2004, 04:26 AM
Funny story...

It turns out that different fields have different sort of... well, ways of thinking right? So then, apparently in linguistics you are taking a sort of statistical approach towards poking at how the brain processes and forms speech (for example, deep structure theory). But then, in engineering... I damn figure the way to figure out how the brain works is to slice 'er open and take a scope to the damn thing. =)