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jrahhali
09-14-2004, 09:06 PM
I have to analyze a really strange poem for my english class ( Symposium (http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/99/jrieffel/main.html) by Paul Muldoon ) and basically, it's a whole bunch of idioms and proverbs patched together. If you read it you'll see why it took me a while to pick apart every one.
There's a few though that i don't know the meaning of:

1. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
2. A new broom sweeps clean
3. Empty vessels make the most noise
4. A hair of the dog that bit you
5. There's no smoke without fire

Any thoughts as to what these sayings mean?

Vicious
09-14-2004, 09:15 PM
People in glass houses shouldnt through stones...

Thats if your judging someone or are looking down on them ( throwing stones at them ) and you are doing the samethings or have the same problems.

Some of the others I havent heard... So looking at them out of context would be hard to give they're metaphorical meaning.

Jeremy G
09-14-2004, 09:37 PM
People in glass houses shouldnt through stones...

Thats if your judging someone or are looking down on them ( throwing stones at them ) and you are doing the samethings or have the same problems.

Some of the others I havent heard... So looking at them out of context would be hard to give they're metaphorical meaning.


I wouldn't quite say thats the meaning.
THe meaning is almost a litteral translation. If you throw a stone in a glass house, what is most likely going to happen? You are going to break the glass (a window, wall, door, whatever) it's going to break and you are going to be in trouble. The meaning is that in a situation you shouldnt do something that has practically a 1/1 chance of getting you in trouble due to the situation.

Steeling from a store, while your parents are watching is throwing a stone in a glass house.
Lieing infront of your pastor is throwing a stone in a glass house.

Get the picture?

BMJ
09-14-2004, 09:41 PM
1. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
Meaning: People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

2. A new broom sweeps clean
Meaning: A new broom sweeps clean

3. Empty vessels make the most noise
Meaning: Empty vessels make the most noise

4. A hair of the dog that bit you
Meaning: A hair of the dog that bit you

5. There's no smoke without fire
Meaning: There's no smoke without fire




:D

EvBladeRunnervE
09-14-2004, 10:42 PM
3. Empty vessels make the most noise

means stupid people tend you spout the most talk.

Thantos
09-14-2004, 11:01 PM
1. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
If you have your own faults, don't judge others based on their faults.

2. A new broom sweeps clean
This is mainly about starting fresh. A newer broom (a fresh start) will sweep cleaner (give a beter result)

3. Empty vessels make the most noise
EvBladeRunnervE

4. A hair of the dog that bit you
For a dog to bite you, you need to get close enough to get a hair off of it.

5. There's no smoke without fire
Basically the results (smoke) tend to lead towards a likely cause (fire).

Zach L.
09-14-2004, 11:31 PM
First one reminds me of a movie a saw a long time ago (I don't remember the name).
A couple of missionaries were down in South America. At some point, they decided to have a glass church built and imported by river boat. The guy had the misfortune of dying when he was on the boat, inside the glass church, and the boat sprung a leak.

Random thought for the day.

Thantos
09-14-2004, 11:46 PM
Well speaking of movies, the first thing that popped into my head was Monty Python, Quest for the Holy Grail....

novacain
09-15-2004, 12:37 AM
"A hair of the dog that bit you "

In Aussie that means if you have a hangover, the cure is to drink some more of the alcohol that gave you the hangover.

jrahhali
09-15-2004, 06:22 AM
Thanks All. I went to bed posting that, and i woke up this morning to have them all answered. :)

One more while it seems we're on a roll:

To fall btween two stools.
:confused:

Salem
09-15-2004, 06:47 AM
To use google is to know how to STFW (http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Folklore/Literature/Proverbs_and_Sayings/)

ober
09-15-2004, 07:34 AM
p\/\/n3D

Dante Shamest
09-15-2004, 11:12 AM
>> A hair of the dog that bit you

Anybody played Monkey Island 3? You had to create a hangover-cure by getting Guybrush to get a dog to bite him and grabbing it's fur.

jrahhali
09-15-2004, 01:53 PM
>>STFW :eek:

This board is a PG-13 environment.
If you read the poem (first post) and my first post, i've have gotten all the idioms myself. I was unsure of 6 of them. I guess it was one too many for you salem. Thank for pointing me to google though :rolleyes:

To fall between two stools
- neither one thing nor the other.

Vicious
09-15-2004, 02:15 PM
>> This board is a PG-13 environment.

They do allow one 'F' word in PG-13 movies ya know :)

jrahhali
09-15-2004, 02:20 PM
Lol, don't you find that some though are cliches. Here's a site that's dedicated to annoying proverbs (http://www.theotherpages.org/quote-07.html). (thanks to Salem...) :p

Thantos
09-15-2004, 06:05 PM
Yes its a PG-13 area which is why he used STFW instead of search the freakin web (replace freakin with the word will all know it really should be)