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caroundw5h
09-04-2004, 10:52 PM
I don't know what this was. But I just want to know why its being covered up (http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf) :eek:

Vicious
09-04-2004, 11:06 PM
Ah, that freaks me out.

Draco
09-04-2004, 11:28 PM
Very intriguing, slightly disturbing. But if what that film implies is true you should only have to think about it for a minute why they would cover it up.

BMJ
09-04-2004, 11:46 PM
No, just no.

Vicious
09-05-2004, 12:13 AM
Yes, this isnt a simple open shut case...

Do a little googling... you will be even more intrigued.

EDIT:
ASCE Building report
http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

EDIT2:
After comparing information between different sources and factual data. I find it completely reasonable that the 757 (Flight 77) could have in fact crashed into the pentagon as reported. I find no reson to object it.

major_small
09-05-2004, 01:17 AM
/me grabs the tin foil

anybody need some?



just a few points:

airplanes make a mess on the ground
not when they don't hit the ground

no fire damage
that's because it collapsed...

can a plane punch a hole in a reinforced concrete wall?
that's kinda part of the point of reinforcing a concrete wall...

the fbi confiscated videos
no crap... when somebody attacks you, don't you want to know who it is? or would you rather just attack some random country for it?

Vicious
09-05-2004, 02:05 AM
Yep, I believe if you read that pdf up there.. it will all make sense.

Like the moon landing...
No, you cant prove it, but the evidence FOR landing on the moon outweighs the evidence forNOT landing on the moon. Not to mention that the reasons claiming we didnt go to the moon are completely destructable.

Same thing in this case. Its all conspiracies people. Thats why they are called conspiracies and not fact :p

Now as for area 51.... that REALLY is interesting.

Draco
09-06-2004, 01:53 AM
This article I found when looking around into the Pentagon flash video gives the explanation that I believe was the big deal at area 51. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/1997/6/new_area_51/

kermi3
09-06-2004, 08:53 AM
The reason for a lot of the decreased damage was because they had just finished reinforcing that side of the building to withstand a missle attack. That included reinforcing the concrete and the windows.

And how does this theory explain the missing passengers and crew from flight 77?

EvBladeRunnervE
09-06-2004, 09:08 AM
there was an article on snopes about this...

EDIT: Here it is : http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

caroundw5h
09-06-2004, 10:33 AM
The reason for a lot of the decreased damage was because they had just finished reinforcing that side of the building to withstand a missle attack. That included reinforcing the concrete and the windows.

And how does this theory explain the missing passengers and crew from flight 77?

thats interesting. I never heard that they couldn't find anyone from that flight. Maybe they were incinerated on impact?

EvBladeRunnervE
09-06-2004, 10:35 AM
Maybe they were incinerated on impact?

well, considering the jet fuel burns hot enough to melt steel, one could say that it could vaporize human material.

ZakkWylde969
09-06-2004, 11:40 AM
there was an article on snopes about this...

EDIT: Here it is : http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm



Was about to post that when I started reading this thread, and you beat me to it.

Brian
09-06-2004, 11:44 AM
wait why would americas government shoot a missile at itself that seems pretty crazy if you ask me

Draco
09-06-2004, 11:48 AM
did you read the link up top?

Brian
09-06-2004, 11:49 AM
> did you read the link up top?

no i dont click links i dont want to catch a virus

Draco
09-06-2004, 12:04 PM
Alllright, I'll do an overview. Basically what it says is gives some circumstantial "evidence" to lead to the belief that a 757 didn't really go into the pentagon, but rather either a missle or a US military drone. It goes on to say that the US would do that because 9/11 was staged not by our government directly, but by the Illuminati, a secret society that controls every major government and even the UN in secret. Their ultimate goal is to control everyone under a single world power/new world order type of deal, and the purpose of 9/11 was to allow US citizens to give up their freedoms for more security (i.e. Patriot Act) and make the country closer to a police state, and what could be conjectured is to also allow the US to take over Iraq and start spreading democracy through the middle east, thus furthering their control of more nations.

*sigh* *deep breath*

That's what the link (and some following links) say in a nutshell. None of the "proof" cited for the Pentagon strike being staged is concrete, and there's a lot of information on the Illuminati, of which you can make your own conclusions.

-Draco

Helping out the virus-scared and lazy everywhere :cool:

Brian
09-06-2004, 12:08 PM
Alllright, I'll do an overview. Basically what it says is gives some circumstantial "evidence" to lead to the belief that a 757 didn't really go into the pentagon, but rather either a missle or a US military drone. It goes on to say that the US would do that because 9/11 was staged not by our government directly, but by the Illuminati, a secret society that controls every major government and even the UN in secret. Their ultimate goal is to control everyone under a single world power/new world order type of deal, and the purpose of 9/11 was to allow US citizens to give up their freedoms for more security (i.e. Patriot Act) and make the country closer to a police state, and what could be conjectured is to also allow the US to take over Iraq and start spreading democracy through the middle east, thus furthering their control of more nations.

*sigh* *deep breath*

That's what the link (and some following links) say in a nutshell. None of the "proof" cited for the Pentagon strike being staged is concrete, and there's a lot of information on the Illuminati, of which you can make your own conclusions.

-Draco

Helping out the virus-scared and lazy everywhere :cool:


what

Vicious
09-06-2004, 12:39 PM
If you read (look at pictures) that pdf I posted. You will see how the 757 could have hit the pentagon.

We are talking about barriers of reinforced concrete and steel.

And I believe what he meant by missing passengers, was that if Flight 77 didnt crash into the pentagon then where did those people go.

But they did find remains of people. All in that PDF people.

Thantos
09-06-2004, 12:51 PM
Illuminati
As soon as I read this word I stopped. Freakin crackpots

axon
09-06-2004, 12:54 PM
As soon as I read this word I stopped. Freakin crackpots


rofl :D

Thantos
09-06-2004, 01:32 PM
Decided to click on the link for grins and giggles:

Forbidden at Freedom Underground
You do not have permission to access this document on Freedom Underground.

Web Server at freedomunderground.org

unamused@lepers.org

Freedom Underground is hosted by:

So I click on the banner:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /home/httpd/vhosts/freedomunderground.org/httpdocs/include/constants.php on line 3

So now they aren't crackpots, they are crackpots that can't even create a working website

Draco
09-06-2004, 02:27 PM
They've been found out and the man's taken down their website!! :eek: