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caroundw5h
07-28-2004, 10:15 PM
I know no one every reads my aritcle links on this site. But I thought this article on hackers (http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html) was pretty good.

XSquared
07-28-2004, 10:38 PM
And for a large discussion on it, click here (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/28/2332233&tid=156).

caroundw5h
07-28-2004, 10:53 PM
And for a large discussion on it, click here (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/28/2332233&tid=156).


I was actually gonna post that, but I didn't know if it was against the board rules. :p

Felix
07-29-2004, 01:36 PM
Ain't I glad you didn't mess hackers up with crackers.

VirtualAce
07-29-2004, 01:42 PM
Good and hacker/cracker don't belong in the same sentence.

Fordy
07-29-2004, 01:42 PM
Ain't I glad you didn't mess hackers up with crackers.

Who doesnt know that! :rolleyes:

One's a guy that spends too much time in front of a computer and has no girlfriend the other is a sort of thin savory biscuit!!

VirtualAce
07-29-2004, 01:43 PM
One's a guy that spends too much time in front of a computer and has no girlfriend the other is a sort of thin savory biscuit!!

:D :D :D

You forgot they are also losers.

Felix
07-29-2004, 01:46 PM
Who doesnt know that! :rolleyes:

All the people I know minus 8 or so.

Fordy
07-29-2004, 01:46 PM
All the people I know minus 8 or so.

;) Good for them!

caroundw5h
07-29-2004, 02:30 PM
:D :D :D

You forgot they are also losers.

I thought all the ppl on this board were losers. my bad.

:eek:

Fordy
07-29-2004, 02:38 PM
I thought all the ppl on this board were losers. my bad.

:eek:

Now that's just rude! Correct in some instances...but rude all the same

caroundw5h
07-29-2004, 02:40 PM
:D :p :) well i'm getting offf the comp now so i won't be labeled thus.
I'm gonna go read my C primer plus fourth edition. :D

Overload
07-30-2004, 09:04 AM
Since I am a geek I take it as a complement whenever a black guy calls me a cracker.

caroundw5h
07-30-2004, 11:25 AM
guess jimbo is a white hacker :D

Thantos
07-30-2004, 11:32 AM
Wow Jimbob is really making an effort to show he's not a dumbarse

bludstayne
07-30-2004, 12:44 PM
Good and hacker/cracker don't belong in the same sentence.
I hope you're joking, right?

VirtualAce
07-30-2004, 12:58 PM
No I'm not joking. Hackers ruin the internet and ruin programming. They should all be put on a rocket and sent to the moon.

bludstayne
07-30-2004, 12:59 PM
No, crackers ruin the internet and ruin programming. Hackers made the internet and improve programming.

VirtualAce
07-30-2004, 01:00 PM
I fail to see your logic.

Thantos
07-30-2004, 01:14 PM
Bubba orginally hacker was a term that was reserved for the most elite computer programmers that would "hack" away at programs until it worked. This was back in the time of punch cards and program tapes. The term has been mutated into what it is today.

VirtualAce
07-30-2004, 01:17 PM
Ok.

I remember those days, but they are gone. Now hackers are usually script kiddies who don't know anything about code and who think it is cool to spell their name with ASCII characters.

xddxogm3
07-30-2004, 04:56 PM
Isn't the classification
(1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
(2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
(3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)

caroundw5h (http://cboard.cprogramming.com/member.php?u=9118)
the article you posted is pretty good.
I'm half way through and it has some really good info.
I'm not sure why they say that perl and python is the preffered language of hackers. Anyone want to put in an opinion on that?

JaWiB
07-30-2004, 05:33 PM
Isn't the classification
(1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
(2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
(3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)


Isn't that kind of racist? :p

caroundw5h
07-30-2004, 06:10 PM
Isn't the classification
(1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
(2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
(3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)
Actually a Script kiddie usally is the loser type who spends their time on the computer, downloading scripts and executing them at arbatrary and well chosen targets. They pretty much don't have any idea about how the code works, except for what the authour tells them. They Script kiddies. *tut tut*



I'm half way through and it has some really good info.
I'm not sure why they say that perl and python is the preffered language of hackers. Anyone want to put in an opinion on that? I'm glad you like the the article, but don't get me started on Python. I
love that language and those language discussions tend to turn heated. Am i loser If I love a language. :confused: I'm so confused. :o oh Python how I love thee. let me count your ways.....

xddxogm3
07-30-2004, 06:11 PM
I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
For example Master and Slave drive?
That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.

gcn_zelda
07-30-2004, 06:13 PM
Haha.

It's not racist, though. Master and slave just means that one controls the other :P It's not referring to African-Americans being controlled by Americans.

caroundw5h
07-30-2004, 06:14 PM
I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
For example Master and Slave drive?
That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.

Hell yeah. Why does the bad guy always wear black? why is bad luck when you see a black cat? why is black monday?? its cause they working subconciously.
:rolleyes: Whatever. This isn't a racial discussin anyway. Even though the states still is a little backwards. But hey, this isn't a race discussion. :o

linuxdude
07-30-2004, 06:45 PM
that brings me back to an article I read a while ago. Pretty funny. and it is on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/)

scrappy
07-30-2004, 07:57 PM
Forget all that "hat" stuff.. If you're gonna be a hacker, do it for yourself and for your own knowledge.

JaWiB
07-30-2004, 10:16 PM
I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
For example Master and Slave drive?
That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.


Haha! I remember a thread posted a while ago...



that brings me back to an article I read a while ago. Pretty funny. and it is on CNN


I think that was the article posted in the thread! It's so ridiculous!

bludstayne
07-31-2004, 05:11 PM
I think black has been coined for "bad" things because black is a color associated with death. Ashes are black. I don't know, just a theory of mine.

VirtualAce
08-14-2004, 04:58 AM
Please don't bump these old threads.