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Shadow
06-07-2004, 11:50 PM
My g/f was on the way to work and drove through a town, and noticed that the gas was at what it always was, $2.14. On the way back home after work in the same day, there was a sign up front of the gas station, "This business has been convicted of a crime." Gas is now $2.03 at that gas station.

She said that people work said the upping on the gas wasn't sent through the proper people and they were raising the price too much, and that other gas stations might just follow.

vsriharsha
06-08-2004, 12:34 AM
We pay Rs.40 (nearly a $) per LITRE of petrol here in India. So, feel miserably happy that you are enjoying the lowest prices...
:-)

adrianxw
06-08-2004, 01:31 AM
This week I paid 9.14 Kroner for a litre. It has, however, dropped a little over recent weeks, a trend that I hope will continue.

9.14 DKK Denmark Kroner = 1.51676 USD United States Dollars

Since a US gallon is roughly 4 litres, we are paying roughly $6 per gallon. (4 litres = 1.06 USG)

Petrol in the US has always struck me as virtually free.

nvoigt
06-08-2004, 02:41 AM
We pay 1.25 per liter, which after some rounding up and down equals 5$ per gallon. Petrol is cheap in the states.

Shogun
06-08-2004, 06:39 AM
we pay 9.98 sek (I think, might have gone up to 10 again..) per liter, which would make it about 5,43$ per gallion

DavidP
06-08-2004, 07:57 AM
holy cow you guys have some expensive gas! woo! go USA!

current gas price where i live: $1.89 per gallon (in USA dollars)

ober
06-08-2004, 08:06 AM
Ok, but for all those people that don't live in the states, how much driving do you do? I drive 35 miles one way to work. And I'm only getting about 26 mpg. And this weekend, I'm driving out to see my wife's parents (350 miles one way).

I guess the point I'm driving at is that things are further apart here and we do more driving. Maybe I'm all wrong, but please set me straight. I'd say we make up for the price difference in the volume we use.

adrianxw
06-08-2004, 09:36 AM
>>> I'd say we make up for the price difference in the volume we use.

Yes, a big guzzling SUV does use more then an economical European car doesn't it! American cars tend to have large thirsty engines.

At the place I was before, I was driving further then you each way. I suspect that there are people in Europe that drive more, and others that drive less, I would guess the same is true in the US. What you'd need is the average number of miles driven, I don't know where to get a reasonable unbiased answer to that. Europe as a whole is larger than the US, so there are plenty of long journies around, but I would think it is fair to say people do drive less frequently the many hundreds of miles trips - they tend to fly. Maybe one or two trips a year down to the Med.

I think there is also a chicken and egg situation here, people tend not to drive vast journies because petrol is expensive. If it were cheap, more people would drive bigger less fuel efficient cars longer distances.

The perception from abroad is that in the US, cars are cheap petrol is cheap, and nobody cares about the emissions, (Kyoto etc.).

XSquared
06-08-2004, 09:43 AM
Here in Canada, regular gas costs about 85c per litre, so that would be about $2.39US per gallon.

axon
06-08-2004, 09:53 AM
My uncle in Belgium owns a toyota Prius - it gets about 53 freagin miles per gallon!! I was driving the car for a while, and I told him I'll fill it up when it will run low...a full tank cost me 75 USD!!!!!!!!!!!

Speedy5
06-08-2004, 11:05 AM
I calculate my mpgs for my car. I do some highway driving but most of it is within my municipality. Driving a '96 Corrola, I average about 38 mpg. The new '04 Corrola my parents drive (sports version btw ;)) does the same too and its faster.

I know my friends have hulking SUVs and they gate pumping gas into it. Currently, I probably spend $18 at the pump for a full-tank, they spend around $40. Sucks for them haha! Just get a car, they're cooler, faster, and cheaper.

I remember the time when gas used to be $1.14 per gallon here. Isn't that awesome! Then again, I wasn't driving back then.

Driving around is so much fun. Bored? Get out in the car, drive around and maybe you'll see someone and then do stuff. You probably spent $2 or $3 a day (tops) and you spend hours blasting music, hanging out, going to the mall, etc. Much cheaper than other activities.

EvBladeRunnervE
06-08-2004, 11:55 AM
After seeing the European prices on gas, it is no wonder Europeans are making large strides towards fuel efficient cars, while americans continute to use big gas guzzling SUVs(I need to check, but the funny thing is that single females buy the most SUVs, when one would expect men and people with families to be the top spenders).

I havent seen gas drop where I am, still approaching 2 dollars a gallon(was ~1.86 USD a gallon a couple of days ago).

vNvNation
06-08-2004, 11:58 AM
I am happy that I am employed with a company that pays for gasoline :)

adrianxw
06-08-2004, 12:07 PM
>>> Toyota Prius

There is a lot to be said for these hybrid cars. At the moment, they are very expensive in Denmark because some stupid idiot who simply didn't understand was given the job of rating them, he goofed and placed them in a luxury bracket. That will change.

I think women buy those big 'cars' because they feel safer in them, despite the figures which show they are, if anything more dangerous then regular cars.

EvBladeRunnervE
06-08-2004, 12:15 PM
I think women buy those big 'cars' because they feel safer in them, despite the figures which show they are, if anything more dangerous then regular cars.

exactly, most figures I have seen have shown:
1) SUVs are more prone to rollovers in turns exceeding 35mph
2) you are more likely to kill the other party in an accident if you drive an SUV and they have a car
3) you spend far more than what you should in gas, because for example, my parents ford F150 only gets 15-17 mpg.

and from what I have seen in life:

1) people who drive SUVs tend to have a fake sense of security, and tend to drive more reckless than those in cars.



There is a lot to be said for these hybrid cars. At the moment, they are very expensive in Denmark because some stupid idiot who simply didn't understand was given the job of rating them, he goofed and placed them in a luxury bracket. That will change.


yeah, I heard about that, and supposedly it is the same way in quite a few other European countries due to ignorant raters. I personally think they should subsidize purchase of hybrid/(high fuel economy) cars.

nvoigt
06-08-2004, 01:15 PM
>Ok, but for all those people that don't live in the states, how much driving do you do?

30km ( ~20miles ) to work, same number back obviously. All of it is "Autobahn". I have one traffic light, one zebra crossing, a rotary and 30km of Autobahn between my house and my workplace. On good days it's 10 minutes to work. However, that also means that I have to refuel my 30ltrs at least once a week.

SUVS and small trucks provide a wrong sense of security. They can go fast and load a lot, but in the end, without all the normal security measures of real trucks and without the handling of a normal car, most crashes I see on the Autobahn have at least one SUV or small truck involved. And it sure doesn't look too secure once it's on it's side or roof and destroyed.

electRONix
06-08-2004, 01:18 PM
gooo silicon valley =d

91 octane aka v-power at shell

$2.61 near my house, today just dropped to $2.59. But about 2 exits away from my house i get the same gas for $2.44...


HMM. maybe i should be like all the other california dudes and take my surfboard to school :p

Speedy5
06-08-2004, 03:02 PM
30km ( ~20miles ) to work, same number back obviously.... On good days it's 10 minutes to work.
30 kilometers in 10 minutes means you're driving 112 mph on average which is insane. Most cars can't go that fast for extended periods of time.

hahaha nice :D

Govtcheez
06-08-2004, 11:21 PM
>>> I'd say we make up for the price difference in the volume we use.

Yes, a big guzzling SUV does use more then an economical European car doesn't it! American cars tend to have large thirsty engines.
Ober actually drives a pretty small car.

novacain
06-08-2004, 11:28 PM
Petrol in Australia hit Au$4.50 / gallon last week. Ave around Au$3.60 to Au$4.00 / gallon.

I live very close to the CBD and work so don't drive far each day. As flights are unavailable or very expensive we drive everywhere and a trip of <3 hours is considered short (in WA at least, WA is four times the size of Texas with <1.5mill pop.)

A weekend surf / wine safari to Margret River is a good 800km trip (>300km one way). Thats gets very expensive with all the 4 wheel driving (to get to the best surf spots).

Shadow
06-08-2004, 11:47 PM
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I know my friends have hulking SUVs and they gate pumping gas into it. Currently, I probably spend $18 at the pump for a full-tank, they spend around $40. Sucks for them haha! Just get a car, they're cooler, faster, and cheaper.
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In Wisconsin, the number one reason for car accidents is deer. My girlfriend's brother recently hit one on the interstate(75mphish). I think they got $300 out of what was left of the 2000/2001 Taurus.

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Driving around is so much fun. Bored? Get out in the car, drive around and maybe you'll see someone and then do stuff. You probably spent $2 or $3 a day (tops) and you spend hours blasting music, hanging out, going to the mall, etc. Much cheaper than other activities.
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That's basically what I've been doing lately. I've been going on Air Raid Siren picture hunts(I send all this stuff from my website to airraidsirens.com). It's a little weird, but I find them interesting and plan to get one soon. I have a vintage '79 Impala. Deer don't really scare me. I talked to a guy who hit a deer at 60 in an old impala around that time and he said it only smashed up the grill a little. Mine's got the 5.0 130hp V8. Just the little 305. At a quarter of a tank, it takes $30 to fill it. In the last 3 months or so, while taking siren pictures, I've been to 87 different towns, throughout 23 different counties.

The lowest gas price in our area appears to be $1.99 right now. I remember when it was 99 cents a gallon and my family took a trip out west where it was $1.34 a gallon. We thought it was outrageous.

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Oh, forgot, my car is 20mpg

adrianxw
06-09-2004, 12:14 AM
>>> Ober actually drives a pretty small car.

I didn't say he drove a big one. He was generalising by using the "we".

lightatdawn
06-09-2004, 01:05 AM
>>Ober actually drives a pretty small car.

Then theres something horribly wrong with it. I drive a '63 Mercury Comet with a 260 V-8 which is currently running almost entirely on 7 of the 8 cylinders and I still get slightly better mileage than that. And if you've never seen a Comet, picture a Oil Tanker and add headlights (and super-cool fins of course).

Here in Canada, BC we're hovering at $98.5 canadian. No clue what that converts to in american weirdarse measurements/money. Everyones waiting expectantly for the first time ever gas will hit a buck. I swear it'll be the Millenium bug of gas. I mean, theres only room for 3 digits on the gas signs! We'll roll over to 00.5 and everyone will go on a buying spree. Airplanes will fall from the sky! Its coming I tell you!

...

:cool:

nvoigt
06-09-2004, 05:53 AM
30 kilometers in 10 minutes means you're driving 112 mph on average which is insane. Most cars can't go that fast for extended periods of time.

hahaha nice


The car is a ten years old VW Golf III. Models IV and V are out already, but this one's going fine and I don't have money that I would waste without gain just to have a more flashy version of my current car :D
There are no modifications at all, no tuning, no stuff. Regular car, not cared for except for washing when I can no longer look through the side windows. Worth if sold right now: ~1500$

Papers say it does 180km/h, it can go close to 200 in long, straight lanes.

If there are no traffic jams on the Autobahn, going at 150-160km/h ( ~110mph ) in the left lane is normal, less is looking for trouble. This is not speeding btw. if there is no special limit, you can go as fast as you like in Germany. It's not uncommon that cars overtake me on my way to work. :p

Obviously 10 minutes means a green light and no people who use the left lane for a quick nap or other jokes like a bus overtaking a truck overtaking a caravan... with normal conditions it's more like 15-20 minutes and if I have to wait at the lights, watch out for a place to park and there's someone on the left lane who got his driving licence from a CARE packet then it can take 30. :mad:

I drive to work in this car for 3 years straight at every weather. The only thing stopping me was when I could not scrape the 2cm of solid ice from the front window last christmas. The car is fine, no damages due to the driving. ( Some scratches and dents, some replacement parts, normal stuff for a ten year old car ). :D

ober
06-09-2004, 05:56 AM
Then theres something horribly wrong with it. I drive a '63 Mercury Comet with a 260 V-8 which is currently running almost entirely on 7 of the 8 cylinders and I [I]still{/I] get slightly better mileage than that. I have a 3.1 litre V6. I get about 29/30 mpg on long trips and about 24/26 running around town. Then again, I normally drive like I have somewhere to be. :D I guess I should also mention that I live in valley with mountains between the majority of my destinations. I top 3 just on the way to work. But having said that, getting about 26 mpg on the way to work is about average for my car under those conditions (2000 Oldsmobile Alero).

adrianxw
06-09-2004, 09:23 AM
>>> Ober actually drives a pretty small car.

and

>>> have a 3.1 litre V6.

:) LOL

I have a 1.6 litre 16V straight 4. It is a lot hotter then my last car. I get about 15,5 km to a litre - thats about 60km to a US gallon which is roughly 38 miles per gallon, (I think).

ober
06-09-2004, 09:33 AM
The car itself is fairly small... the engine is not so small, but it's no SUV V8 or anything. But I actually typed the wrong thing... after thinking about it, it's actually a 3.4L V6 ... oops. It's pushing 170 hp, so it has it's fair share of power.

adrianxw
06-09-2004, 01:00 PM
What can I say?

RobR
06-09-2004, 04:36 PM
The car itself is fairly small... the engine is not so small, but it's no SUV V8 or anything. But I actually typed the wrong thing... after thinking about it, it's actually a 3.4L V6 ... oops. It's pushing 170 hp, so it has it's fair share of power.Wut? My 2 Litre is pushing 180 BHP.

I do about 30,000 miles per year - thank heaven for company fuel cards :D

ober
06-10-2004, 06:25 AM
I have an oldsmobile..... what do you expect.