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DavidP
06-03-2004, 09:11 AM
The word of the day is: vaxocentrism

I just heard about it :cool:

Check it out. It is all about programming.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vaxocentrism

Thantos
06-03-2004, 09:43 AM
Funny.

But am I the only one who sees a problem with a dictionary using jargon?

axon
06-03-2004, 09:54 AM
thantos has a chronic case of vaxocentrism.....


so thantos, is this quality enough for you...hehe ;)

major_small
06-03-2004, 09:57 AM
Funny.

But am I the only one who sees a problem with a dictionary using jargon?yes.

you do realize, that unlike C, standard written and spoken english is dictated by how people use it?

image what shakespeare would say if he saw a dictionary from today.

Thantos
06-03-2004, 10:13 AM
There is a difference between how the majority uses a particular word and jargon. Hell the defination of jargon is enough for me too keep it out of the standard language

Nonsensical, incoherent, or meaningless talk.
A hybrid language or dialect; a pidgin.
The specialized or technical language of a trade, profession, or similar group. See Synonyms at dialect.
Speech or writing having unusual or pretentious vocabulary, convoluted phrasing, and vague meaning.

Lurker
06-03-2004, 10:52 AM
I like learning new words :) .

Is it just me, or does thantos gain like 300 reputation a day? It never seemed to me like he deserved it, but....

:)

Thantos
06-03-2004, 11:15 AM
<innocent whistle> Only have 324

/glare ober :)

loopy
06-05-2004, 08:28 AM
Offtopic, but lately I've been liking the word..."ambivalence".

adrianxw
06-05-2004, 08:48 AM
I have a certain ambivalence to many of the hardware platforms discussed on the boards here, but I do have a soft spot for the older DEC machines, PDP-8, PDP-11 and the best of all, the mighty VAX under the sublimely usable VMS operating system...

loopy
06-05-2004, 09:20 AM
I have a certain ambivalence to many of the hardware platforms discussed on the boards here, but I do have a soft spot for the older DEC machines, PDP-8, PDP-11 and the best of all, the mighty VAX under the sublimely usable VMS operating system...

Are you saying you don't like sony???

adrianxw
06-05-2004, 10:42 AM
>>> Are you saying you don't like sony???

I said I liked the older DEC machines. In the small to medium sized machine market, DEC was an early innovator, but like most successful firms got bogged down in the detail as they grew.

The VAX architecture was a bold leap forward at the time. The Alpha processor an even greater one. Today, Intel and AMD are offering 64 bit chips, but the Alpha was there way before them, and when most top notch PC's were running with 100MHz 32 bit CPU's the 21064 was running a full 64 bit architecture with speeds up to 1GHz "by the end of the year".

When Compaq bought out DEC, one of the first things they did was kill the Alpha chips - a crime of galactic proportion. They couldn't kill them entirely because the customer demand was there, I was still buying Alpha systems 3 years ago, and have no doubt my old company still are, but they are not marketted, so are effectively dead.

Similaly, the real 32 bit Windows systems, (NT), were developed from a cut down version of VMS - indeed, DEC marketted NT for a while, and even MS admit to having DEC compatible versions of Windows. Properly done, Windows could now be up to VMS's level of stability, reliability and usability.

Does it not strike people as odd that companies like my last one, vastly huge in the global satellite communications business are still developing their mission critical software for platforms most people have never heard of under operating systems even less have...

The PC market may get there one day.

loopy
06-05-2004, 11:12 AM
>>> Are you saying you don't like sony???

I said I liked the older DEC machines. In the small to medium sized machine market, DEC was an early innovator, but like most successful firms got bogged down in the detail as they grew.

The VAX architecture was a bold leap forward at the time. The Alpha processor an even greater one. Today, Intel and AMD are offering 64 bit chips, but the Alpha was there way before them, and when most top notch PC's were running with 100MHz 32 bit CPU's the 21064 was running a full 64 bit architecture with speeds up to 1GHz "by the end of the year".

When Compaq bought out DEC, one of the first things they did was kill the Alpha chips - a crime of galactic proportion. They couldn't kill them entirely because the customer demand was there, I was still buying Alpha systems 3 years ago, and have no doubt my old company still are, but they are not marketted, so are effectively dead.

Similaly, the real 32 bit Windows systems, (NT), were developed from a cut down version of VMS - indeed, DEC marketted NT for a while, and even MS admit to having DEC compatible versions of Windows. Properly done, Windows could now be up to VMS's level of stability, reliability and usability.

Does it not strike people as odd that companies like my last one, vastly huge in the global satellite communications business are still developing their mission critical software for platforms most people have never heard of under operating systems even less have...

The PC market may get there one day.

I had read about the PDP-[8/11], I had heard of DEC, mostly along with tandy (my sisters friend used to own one...).

I think that the PC market has already bloomed in that direction, mostly due to the success of Microsoft. For example, I had bought a graphics card (ATI Radeon 9600), for its dual monitor capability, but finding a driver for it was impossible, which didn't surprise me, it had many non-standard features that most don't need or use, like a t.v. tuner, this card was made specifically FOR microsoft, blocking out users who may want to stray from the norm.

While some companys are straying from the norm a bit more, most are doing so passively, like NVidia, which releases software for other Operating Systems (NOT Windows), but still do so holding on to the "technology" more suited to some non-standard Operating Systems.

Maybe theres hope for the computing world yet...