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VirtualAce
05-18-2004, 10:19 PM
It is with deep regret that I am leaving this board. Recently it seems that some have been either somehow threatened by or annoyed with my posts. I thought this was a place that we could share code ideas, algos, etc. but perhaps I was mistaken.

Because of recent and uncalled for inflammatory posts in some of my threads and threads that I have posted to I feel that I no longer have anything noteworthy to contribute to the community here at cprog. I do not wish to start a flamewar and it seems that is what is taking place.

For those I've helped and those who have helped me I say farewell to and that it has been very good being here. For the early members that saw me through some very simple and at times very complex problems I say a heartfelt 'Thank You' and you have contributed much to my programming experience and education. For those who somehow feel threatened by my posts...I do not understand your issues and wish you well.

To the webmaster and all of the moderators thank you so much for the board and your dedication to it.

Bubba.

DavidP
05-18-2004, 10:47 PM
Thankyou, Bubba for your knowledge you have shared. You are one of the best on this board in terms of Assembly and graphics.

Good luck in the industry. May your hopes of becoming a professional game developer come true. I look forward to seeing you at a Game Developers Conference or maybe an E3 Expo someday.

Keep in touch man. Drop by once in awhile.

RoD
05-18-2004, 11:01 PM
Ditto what davidp said. Unlike many, including myself, you always post with sense and knowledge, as well as facts to backup your statements.

Dont be a stragner buddy

alphaoide
05-18-2004, 11:45 PM
Wow, that bad?? Can you not just ignore those people? Wanna bet if we do a poll more people will still want you to contribute? Oooii, are u even still checking this board? Gee, what did you guys do/say to him, you're guys mean!

Thantos
05-18-2004, 11:53 PM
Sorry to hear this Bubba. I hope you can find your way back.

Jeremy G
05-18-2004, 11:53 PM
I blame silvercord, or now shadow or what ever. hes been an ass to all lately.
Thanks for your contributions Bubba your input will be missed.

scrappy
05-19-2004, 12:15 AM
:( Sorry to see you go. I was looking forward to asking you questions after getting into game programming. Maybe I'll see you around other places.

Good luck with your goals and ambitions!

ober
05-19-2004, 05:56 AM
Bubba, I'm not a regular on the programming portion of this site, but your input in the Tech Board has proved to be phenomenal. I can't believe anyone would flame you for anything or not give you the utmost respect. I'm sorry to see you leave here...... but then again FD will have you all to ourselves. :devil:

whackaxe
05-19-2004, 08:51 AM
/me waves.

have fun :)

jverkoey
05-19-2004, 09:25 AM
I'll have to agree with you Bubba, a lot of the people here nowadays are very testy about everything you post. No longer can you post here without getting your post actively criticized or the subject changing within the first 15 posts. It's really too bad that you're leaving the boards, you're an awesome contributor to the gamedev boards, and I was looking forward to seeing your current project in action in the near future...

So I dunno, it just seems to me that this is becoming less of a community and more of a critiquing area for post etiquette.

I like how we have the boards here for answering questions, but it's getting to the point now where either you're answering other people's questions on the C++/C boards or replying to some random thing in the general discussions. There's just not much intellectual conversation going on.

If we had discussions about code theory, started projects at the site, actually got some involvement to get people here a bit more part of the community and not just here to answer other people's questions, I'm sure we could all learn and be a lot happier than some of us are right now. Maybe we could have more contests than we currently have?

I think it would be really cool if cboard hosted a game development contest or at least a complex programming contest, something that required people to actually think :)

*Prepares for extreme flaming, because it's probably going to happen*

DavidP
05-19-2004, 09:31 AM
wasnt that one of the same reasons why Sunlight left?

major_small
05-19-2004, 10:01 AM
sad to see you go, bubba... even though we didn't really cross paths that much...

I think the problem is that people on this board don't want to get into what jverkoey suggested because they're afraid of leaving all the n00bs behind, but then when a n00b asks a question, they're all too often replied to with "STFW (http://www.google.com)" or "read the FAQ (http://faq.cprogramming.com)"... I'm guilty of it too, but people come here for help, not to get the runaround...

I think we should either actually help these people or go on to other things and continue dealing with them the way they are... or better yet, go on to other things while helping these people...

I don't know about the others here, but I found this place because I needed to know something about the C++ language, so I did a google search and found these forums...

RoD
05-19-2004, 10:22 AM
If its in the FAQ they shouldnt be posting, it means they're lazy or incompetent.

VirtualAce
05-19-2004, 11:42 AM
Well thank you all for your kind words and perhaps my actions were a bit premature. But I'm tired of getting flamed for absolutely no reason when my goal here is to help and to be helped. Leaving the board is not going to solve the problem and so I have decided to stick it out rather than let a few ruin my experience here. I don't normally post farewell threads or anything close to it but I was getting very fed up and quite honestly...hurt...by some of the cruel posts.

But as I said, leaving won't solve anything and I'm not a quitter. So if we can resolve the issues and get back to programming and...of course...game development then I'm willing to stay. Leaving because of a few people sorta makes me a wuss in my opinion and I don't want to be viewed that way.

Sorry for the premature and perhaps immature idea of leaving the board. Besides....I don't think I could stay away for very long guys. :D

But....we do need to address some of these issues...namely very poor attitudes towards other members and downright rude and crude posts. I will not name names here because I do not wish to single any one person out. Let's just remember to treat others with respect. I realize that many already do this so it is not a sweeping assessment of the board....just a general statement so that I do not use names.

I have taken the issue up with the right people and hopefully we can get it resolved.

linuxdude
05-19-2004, 12:00 PM
Your right. I think we need a programming contest again. I am not good enough to rate code or time it. But we should start talking about it though. As for the theory thing. Maybe some of the people that hang around in the General Discussions should come out to the other boards and help or ask questions again.

ggs
05-19-2004, 12:15 PM
wasnt that one of the same reasons why Sunlight left?

i remember sunlight left because of an argument with somebody else who claimed an entire 3d engine could be done in 8 or 16 kilobytes of code - well, that was the final nail in the coffin, anyway. i think he was wrong, after all.

ygfperson
05-19-2004, 05:22 PM
i haven't posted here often recently, but it's sad to see you go bubba

RoD
05-19-2004, 05:47 PM
i agree bubba, i ahve some problems myself.

Prelude
05-19-2004, 05:54 PM
>I'm tired of getting flamed for absolutely no reason when my goal here is to help and to be helped.
It comes with the territory Bubba. :) Believe it or not, some people don't react well to the truth. You can give them a flawless image of reality and they'll burn you to a crisp for your trouble. The situation only gets worse when matters of opinion enter into the mix. :D

>I was getting very fed up and quite honestly...hurt...by some of the cruel posts.
I remember a few (dozen (dozen! ;))) posts that made me feel exactly the same way. Just between us, and the rest of the board because this post is public :rolleyes:, I can remember a few people who nearly brought me to tears with their stinging comments. But you can't force everyone to play nice, and you have to remember that the people you help far outnumber the ones that refuse to be helped or are beyond help.

JaWiB
05-19-2004, 06:17 PM
Glad you decided not to go :)

You should visit the IRC (assuming you haven't already, since I don't visit as much as I'd like to)

Lurker
05-19-2004, 06:39 PM
Sure, you might be a master game programmer, but with an attitude like that, no one will care to hire you, or at least keep you for long.

Was xterria banned? Looks like someone is trying to take his place....

Jeremy G
05-19-2004, 06:42 PM
oh well, I guess I just don't really care.

I said exactly what I was thinking, and I said *exactly* what was ........ing me off. You got touchy about it, threatened to leave, whatever.

I've overstayed my time here at this site, and I really honestly believe that there is nobody here that can really help me with my projects anyway.

EDIT:

and I just wanted to say that I am a hell of a lot smarter and more talented than most of the people that bad mouth me. To be honest, that's the biggest reason why I've got such a bad attitude towards other people. And I'm not even going into computer science next year. So it's like, on one hand, I've got this incredible, well refined talent with the 3D graphics and programming and very complex, very high-level problem solving (I could pass most computer science courses, but I have yet to graduate high school), but my latest hobbies, talents, and my long term aspirations are in something so totally different from computer science.

ego much?

seriously though, what have you posted game project or non game project wise that was so great?
Ie- wasn't directly comprised of tutorials at nehe, or gametutorials?

Lurker
05-19-2004, 06:49 PM
There are plenty of people who are waaaay ahead of others. You think programming kids are the only ones ahead of others?

JaWiB
05-19-2004, 07:12 PM
Wow...I don't see what the problem is...I mean since you obviously have at least some talent in programming you shouldn't be complaining. Heck, it could help with a lot of careers, not a specific programming career. But don't listen to me...