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St0rmTroop3er
02-23-2004, 12:09 AM
I have a question. Don't deleat this becasue I don't know where to post about Java.



Okay, If I learn Java First, would it be easier to under stand c++ after I learn java? Becasue I herd Java is like c. I tried learning c++ but I found it too hard. I went on learning php and started getting used to scripting languages. I"m learning Java and finding it fun. Will this make Learning c++ easier? Thanks in advanced!

RoD
02-23-2004, 12:11 AM
Programming is theory and logic converted into syntax. All learning another language will do is teach you new syntax, not make another language easier imo.

alphaoide
02-23-2004, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by St0rmTroop3er

Okay, If I learn Java First, would it be easier to under stand c++ after I learn java? Becasue I herd Java is like c. I tried learning c++ but I found it too hard. I went on learning php and started getting used to scripting languages. I"m learning Java and finding it fun. Will this make Learning c++ easier? Thanks in advanced!
Well, it works the other way around as well: mastering c++ will make learning Java easier. :D
If your *solely* goal is to master c++, then using Java as a stepping stone is a waste of time, in my opinion. It's good, however, to become familiar with a few other languages; they're different tools for different purposes.

DarkViper
02-23-2004, 03:17 AM
its just my opinion: but steer clear of Java.

If you can learn C++, your way better off in the first place, unless your in dire need of being able to embed your program on a webpage.

PHP shares nothing with Java, Java is a coding language, PHP is a web-programming (scripting) language. but PHP is awsome, i commend thee on chosing PHP over ASP, how advanced in PHP are you?

Java has been said its a 'dumbed down version of C++, as they both have OOP capabilities with handling classes and structures', but dont confuse the two. Just because your veteran Java, dont mean you can code C++ just as good, you basically got an idea for the basic Syntax is what the saying "Java will train you for C++" means.

just my two cents.

St0rmTroop3er
02-23-2004, 11:36 AM
"How far advanced are you in php?"

Well, I've thought about it and i think i could prolly make a merssage board is i really wanted too. I"m programming a CMS.


Anyway, I wanna learn Java because I wan't to make games. I talked to this guy he said he learned Java, and that helped him learn c++.

I don't wanna make the next Unreal Engine or the Next RTS, I just wanna make 2D Games, nothing complicated. I"ve herd the Java is slow. I'm going to the library today. I"ll program a few games, mayby a RPG. If i don't like the way Java works for making games, I"m going to move on to DirectX and c++.

I just wanted opinions on what you guys think.

gcn_zelda
02-23-2004, 04:07 PM
I'd try searching the boards.
There are quite a few posts very similar to this.

DarkViper
02-24-2004, 01:08 AM
if you want to make simple 2d games, the go Macromedia Flash and learn the simple ActionScript language, if you want something related to java get Macromedia FlashMX2004, as ActionScript2 now looks and feels like Java related scripting. But im sticking with my FlashMX (v6) and AS1, taking its Javascript type feel :D