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Nutshell
07-17-2003, 07:34 AM
Ugh..T3 is so bad. I realli hate this kinda movies which doens't tell you any decent stories. It starts off nowhere and ends no where, preparing for you for the upcoming 10 follow-up episodes or something. Beside a few o.k. jokes, it's just another movie with a lot of explosions.

You don't learn anything after watching it, which is not-good.

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 07:37 AM
> You don't learn anything after watching it, which is not-good.

Movies aren't supposed to teach you. They're supposed to be entertaining.

Have you seen the other 2 movies?

Nutshell
07-17-2003, 07:53 AM
Good movies always teach you something.

Yea i saw the previous ones.

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 08:11 AM
> Good movies always teach you something.

Like what? I need examples, here.

> Yea i saw the previous ones.

o i c.

You saw the previous 2, so I assume that you liked them enough to see the third. Being that they're scifi action shootemups, what'd you learn? Not to create a sentient AI?

Nutshell
07-17-2003, 08:46 AM
>You saw the previous 2, so I assume that you liked them >enough to see the third. Being that they're scifi action >shootemups, what'd you learn? Not to create a sentient AI?

Did i say i think the first 2 were good?

One movie i recently saw (which is good) is "Waking Life", full of philosophical insights. Yes.

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 08:48 AM
Wait a minute. You saw the first 2, didn't like them, and then complain the third wasn't any good?

OooooooK.

VirtualAce
07-17-2003, 08:48 AM
You saw the previous 2, so I assume that you liked them enough to see the third. Being that they're scifi action shootemups, what'd you learn? Not to create a sentient AI?


:D

What would happen if a terminator ran under Windows and crashed?? One good reason not to create sentient AI.

We can't even figure out how to make your squaddies in games do intelligent things - like aim and shoot and actually help you out. Instead they normally kill you by shooting you in the back, or they fall off of a cliff, or they chuck a grenade into a room while you are standing in it. Morons with weapons. They are more dangerous to you than the actual bad guys in the game!!

Until our AI programming gets better, I'll stick with stupid computers.


:D

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Bubba
We can't even figure out how to make your squaddies in games do intelligent things - like aim and shoot and actually help you out. Instead they normally kill you by shooting you in the back, or they fall off of a cliff, or they chuck a grenade into a room while you are standing in it. Morons with weapons. They are more dangerous to you than the actual bad guys in the game!!
No kidding. I killed two members in my party in Morrowind last night because they walked right in front of me as I swung my sword. They didn't have weapons out - they were going to try and beat the monster to death barehanded.

VirtualAce
07-17-2003, 08:54 AM
They didn't have weapons out - they were going to try and beat the monster to death barehanded.


:D They were gonna save the world with their bare hands and you killed 'em. LOL.

ROFL.

See what I mean?

;)

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 08:59 AM
Hey, if you get in my way, I can't be held responsible. I've also shot people I was trying to escort when they wouldn't get out of the way. I get frustrated with it pretty easily - maybe that's why I haven't beaten it yet.

(for the record, my hand-to-hand skill is like 95 in that game - I probably could have beaten the thing to death easily)

VirtualAce
07-17-2003, 09:05 AM
I once had this game where this loud mouthed jerk was shouting orders at you through the whole thing. Fortunately he could be shot too thereby silencing him for the duration of the game.

If your friends get in your way or are more of a threat or nuissance than the bad guys - kill em and you will probably solve the game quicker.

:D

Even on the new Rainbow Six games your moron squaddies continually run in front of you as you are shooting terrorists. I can't figure out whose more of a terrorist - my platoon, the hostages, or the terrorists.

And what is it with ladders in games? Absolutely no one has come up with a game that can climb ladders correctly consistently. Normally the AI falls apart with everyone standing at the bottom with their thumb up you know where. Meanwhile at the top of the ladder you are getting blasted into next week.
Stairways seem to offer the same challenge for AI.


To get back on track, I haven't seen T3 yet but I want to. Normally I don't go see any Terminator movies with the idea of actually learning something. I just want to see the cool special effects - who cares about the rest.

:D

confuted
07-17-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Govtcheez
Hey, if you get in my way, I can't be held responsible. I've also shot people I was trying to escort when they wouldn't get out of the way. I get frustrated with it pretty easily - maybe that's why I haven't beaten it yet.

(for the record, my hand-to-hand skill is like 95 in that game - I probably could have beaten the thing to death easily)

You shot people in Morrowind, did you? Hmmmmm :rolleyes:

FillYourBrain
07-17-2003, 10:01 AM
T3 was a fun movie. Nothing more. I get a kick out of people who try to read too deeply into movies like the matrix. Most movies are peppered with shallow phylosophy to show off how enlightened the screenwriters are. I prefer film makers who are more honest about what it is that they are doing. They're entertainers, clowns, and jesters. Nothing more. If you try to be too serious about your movies I question your maturity.

RoD
07-17-2003, 10:11 AM
i didnt have high hopes for it bt it was OK...


Perfect AI example: The scientists in Half-Life, they ........ me off so much one of my fav things to do is play the real game with cheats on so i can walk around the lab and kill everyone...

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by blackrat364
You shot people in Morrowind, did you? Hmmmmm :rolleyes: Um... yeah. That's what bows do. What do you want me to call it? Bowing them? Arrowing them?

RoD
07-17-2003, 10:25 AM
Compund Injury!!! Get it????

Wow that was lame...

JaWiB
07-17-2003, 12:08 PM
I'm reminded of a very bad game I played called Rainbow Six...for N64...On the last mission (like the fourth one also...) my AI teammates would get killed and ruin the mission for me, so I shot all of them at the beginning, completed the objectives and waited...How was I supposed to know I could only win if they survived?

Eibro
07-17-2003, 12:28 PM
T3 is the greatest movie ever. Arnold Schwarzenegger is the greatest action hero ever. (No, i'm not biased about this movie because Schwarzenegger is in it :D) Those few scenes where it was 1 on 1, Terminator to Terminator were simply amazing. Nothing compares to that; car chases, shootouts, extreme sports... whatever, I can honestly say that this was the best action movie i've ever seen.
I did, however, find this movie tried to explain the story a little too well. It left nothing to be desired or interpreted... it was all layed out infront of you in plain english.

Just look at the guy...

FillYourBrain
07-17-2003, 12:51 PM
that was funny...


"drop you're weapon.... uh.... and the coffin"

ygfperson
07-17-2003, 01:51 PM
T3 was pretty good. As sequels go, it's not bad. It fints in with the previous two nicely. (Although T1 didn't really have a big story behind it...)

MethodMan
07-17-2003, 02:31 PM
I havent watched T1, and have watched half ot T2 several times.

I enjoyed the movie. I wouldnt say it was awesome, but it was a good movie.

There was continuous action, and some humour in it...

One funny part when they are taking the motor home, Arnold mentions how the female is of perfect breeding age.

Eibro
07-17-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by MethodMan
I havent watched T1, and have watched half ot T2 several times.

I enjoyed the movie. I wouldnt say it was awesome, but it was a good movie.

There was continuous action, and some humour in it...

One funny part when they are taking the motor home, Arnold mentions how the female is of perfect breeding age. I think the funniest part was when John (or that woman) called the T-800 a robot and it corrected him/her with "cybernetic organism". It was perfect, he seemed somewhat insulted by being called a robot. (Even though you really knew he couldn't feel insulted)

Cheeze-It
07-17-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by JaWiB
I'm reminded of a very bad game I played called Rainbow Six...for N64...

:mad: Hey! That game was made by Saffire. Saffire is (was?)
home to one of the greatest game-artists in the entire industry.
Respect!

www.seegmillerart.com

Besides, I didn't think the game was too bad.

But anywho, haven't seen it yet. I will, but I don't have high
expectations for it; I haven't since finding out that Cameron
wasn't going to have anything to do with it...

I have a question: Is the female-terminator supposed to be more
advanced than the T1000? If so, how is that even possible? The
T1000 was freakin' liquid metal. How can you be more advanced
than a robot that can morph into things?

Terminator 2 was the first R-rated movie I ever saw in a theater.

ygfperson
07-17-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by ethic
I have a question: Is the female-terminator supposed to be more
advanced than the T1000? If so, how is that even possible? The
T1000 was freakin' liquid metal. How can you be more advanced
than a robot that can morph into things?
The T1000 can only make stabbing weapons, not chemicals or complex parts...

TravisS
07-17-2003, 07:35 PM
Plus the TX (or is it T-X?) can control other electronic devices as well. She also is able to "morp" (she doesn't do it quite the same way) she can can kinda like regenerate everything. It's kinda hard to explain... she just does it differently than T-1000

FillYourBrain
07-17-2003, 07:43 PM
I thought the T1000 was more powerful too. It's kinda like he was indestructable. I mean he blew up, in a million pieces and melted back together! that's really far fetched but who cares. anyway, she sustained damage throughout the film.

TX is a more powerful offensive machine, where T1000 is more indestructable. Fair enough?

Govtcheez
07-17-2003, 08:16 PM
> that's really far fetched but who cares.

Everyone who's going to see this kind of movie should remember this line going in.

Cheeze-It
07-17-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Govtcheez
> that's really far fetched but who cares.

Everyone who's going to see this kind of movie should remember this line going in.


Hey, quit hatin' on Terminator. The Terminator series isn't any
more far fetched than The Matrix, which wouldn't even exist
if it wasn't for Terminator and Star Wars. It's obvious that the
Wachowski Bros. were "inspired" by those films.

Anywho, you have to wonder about T2. Was the script about
a liquid metal written before or after Cameron heard about
3D Studio Max? Doesn't matter, it was still a cool movie.

Scourfish
07-18-2003, 12:27 AM
The movie was awesomely awesome in an oldschoo,l ass-kicking, sci-fi movie kind of way. And it was ten times better than that corny Wachowski Brothers thing.

Govtcheez
07-18-2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by ethic
Hey, quit hatin' on Terminator I wasn't. I meant anyone goin to see a scifi action movie like that or the Matrix loses their right to talk about it being farfetched.

ammar
07-18-2003, 07:42 AM
I saw the movie two days ago, and it was good, although I thought it's going to be better!

If you saw the first two movies and you liked them, I think you'll like this one.