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Budgiekarl
06-09-2003, 03:28 PM
Whats VB and VS .NET?? :confused: What do they do?! They're replaceing VB and I don't know what they are!!

Xei
06-09-2003, 04:21 PM
VB is Visual Basic. It is a High-Level programming language. In my opinion I would never try to make a living knowing only VB, but apparently Administrators here in Canada make upwards to $60,000 with only an online OOP training (makes me want to shoot myself). Anyways, VS .NET is Visual Studio .NET, which is a set of programming tools. VS .NET is sold by Microsoft in different editions to suit your business's needs. They are not necessarily replacing VB as their VB.NET still uses the same name, but if you compare VB.NET code with the older VB 4 - 6 code you'll notice a very large difference. If you ask me, unless if you're into ASP, do not consider learning VB.

golfinguy4
06-09-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Xei
If you ask me, unless if you're into ASP, do not consider learning VB.

Um, I would recommend that s/he learns it irregardless. In the business world, RAD languages are very important as deadlines are sometimes more important than performance. As a result, slower languages like VB can be important.

bookworm
06-10-2003, 08:57 AM
Microsoft introduced .NET almost 3 years ago and since then,the dot net bug has caught several professional coders,authors,critics,and hobbyists like me.
.Net is basically a framework of various classes and runtime files which work with the program instead of Windows itself.It works on Windows 2000 and Windows XP.If you want to run .net programs,download the runtime by going to the below URL-
www.dotnetgerman.com/links/dl_distri.asp
In order to create .net apps.,download the SDK from the below URL-
www.dotnetgerman.com/links/dl_dotnetsdk.asp
However,like most free MS stuff,the SDK won't do much for you.U need to buy a compiler,the best and the most expensive is Visual Studio.net(VS.net).U can use it to create programs using all the .net languages-
Visual Basic.net
Visual C++.net
Visual C#.net
Visual J#.net
also-
Crystal Reports
ASP.net
SQL server pages
deplyment wizard
and many more
U can also get stand-alone versions of VB.net,VC#.net etc.

U see,the story of a windows programmer goes like this-
First he learns some C language to create console apps. then he learns a visual language such as VB or VC++.All visual languages
are now being created under the .net platform.Many speculate that MS has brought all its languages under .net so that the next version of Windows can be .net based.
Whatever be it,using .net is a lot of fun,as compared to previous languages as the programmer can do more in lesser time.
There are lots of good resources on the net for .net and many great books too.If u need more information,just ask.I'll be more than happy to help.

golfinguy4
06-10-2003, 05:26 PM
The C# compiler is free AFAIK. Just no free pretty IDE from MS. However, others have created free IDE's for it.

Xei
06-10-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by golfinguy4
Um, I would recommend that s/he learns it irregardless. In the business world, RAD languages are very important as deadlines are sometimes more important than performance. As a result, slower languages like VB can be important.

I can understand what you mean, and you are correct that rapid development can be very useful. But the way I see it is that an experienced C/C++ programmer would likely already have his own libraries programmed (Basically equivilants of software like the Winsock Control, Treeview Control, etc.) and that way could probably create something even quicker than VB could (simply because of the fact C/C++ would be his/her accustom language). Also, MFC would probably be just as fast to develop as something in VB. I suppose VB could be good to learn incase if you are ever hired to 'update' software for a business which was originally created by VB. So I guess you are right that VB could be a good thing to know, i'm usually pretty quick to put it down though cause I spent 2 years of my life learning 6.0 then went to C/C++ and regretted learning VB (especially since .NET changed so much of it, plus it's slow anyways).