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Breach23
10-26-2001, 07:49 PM
Are you for Windows 9x/NT, or *nix. By *nix, I mean linux, unix, any release based on Unix...

Aran
10-26-2001, 07:55 PM
damn.. i thought it was a question of either liking windows or Stevie Nix...

i hate both. goodnight.

mithrandir
10-26-2001, 08:17 PM
neither - they both suck.

Garfield
10-26-2001, 08:38 PM
> neither - they both suck.

I second that.

Hillbillie
10-26-2001, 09:07 PM
I third that!

-KEN-
10-26-2001, 09:16 PM
well if I HAD to choose, windows. WindosXP more specifically. Other than that, I fourth that motion.

Troll_King
10-26-2001, 09:26 PM
*NIX is not good. Windows professional operating systems are quite good but not perfect.

mfc2themax
10-26-2001, 10:58 PM
i fifth that

Fordy
10-27-2001, 02:30 AM
What for????

A desktop - then I would go for Windoze

A web server - then I would go for *nix

greenRoom
10-27-2001, 03:46 AM
I use Win2k and pleased with it. But folks you have to remember "The only way to build a secure system is to keep it simple" (Tanenbaum, 2001). Meaning there are trade-offs you must make when designing an OS. You can have it riddled with ausome user-features, but that means it will be more complicated, which in turn means more code, and thus more bugs.

This may probably have nothing to do with what i just said, but why in heavens does Windows 2000 (also WinXP as well I hear) completely crash when running this code:



#include <stdio.h>

void main (void) {
for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++){
printf ("\t\t\b\b\b");
}
}


I'm just curious, can someone explain?

Oh by the way, you have to click on the exe. It won't crash the system if you run it from the command prompt. I should warn you from doing this or not because not only did my system crash and restart, but a lot of my settings are all screwed up now.

FYI, I'm running Windows 2000 with SP2.

EvenFlow
10-27-2001, 03:52 AM
Well first I would say you should use int main (void), not void main (void). Perhaps the problem lies in the fact that you are tabbing foward two spaces, and back slashing 3 in the same line. Other than that, there is no return 0.

greenRoom
10-27-2001, 04:00 AM
I know that, but what I'm trying to get at is that an OS which calls itself professional should be robust enough to handle programming errors like this.

EvenFlow
10-27-2001, 04:03 AM
True, I see your point, but then again, think about how many possible programs that could potentially be run on an OS. Moreover, the errors that could arise. It would be very hard to predict wouldn't it?

greenRoom
10-27-2001, 04:12 AM
Yeah, you have a point there too EvenFlow. I should have read the previous posts more carefully because Troll_King had it nicely stated that: "Windows professional operating systems are quite good but not perfect.", which I can agree with.

Garfield
10-27-2001, 07:34 AM
You know, if I had to choose, I think I would probably go with *nix. For a couple of reasons. I'm running on win 98, so I don't really know how stable the later editions are, but after time, win gets unstable. *nix doesn't. Also, *nix takes up a lot of less space than windows. Like somebody else mentioned, you can work with a GUI for *nix and a visual interface.

But, I don't know. They both serve their purposes, I guess.

--Garfield

mix0matt
10-27-2001, 08:05 AM
The only reason to pay for a Windows box is for game playing and game development ( the later isn't really even true)...if you're really interested in programming and you don't have a corporate budget, i don't see how you could go with anything other that linux or the free unix derivitives. everything you need for any language is free...free CORBA broker too...can't beat it...free

i personally run both. without tfc, i don't think windows would be a priority....

SilentStrike
10-27-2001, 09:44 AM
C'mon, this is a programming forum, everyone should no this or that results in a true or a false, not a this or a that (unless they are true or false).

Troll_King
10-27-2001, 09:53 AM
#include <stdio.h>

void main (void) {
for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++){
printf ("\t\t\b\b\b");
}
}


This code crashed my Win2k as well!

Breach23
10-27-2001, 01:23 PM
It crashed because there are more backspaces than tabs...You screwed it up!

Troll_King
10-27-2001, 03:47 PM
When I say crashed, I mean goodnight operating system. Run it.

Garfield
10-27-2001, 04:01 PM
Really? See, unstable. That is Windows main problem.

Flarelocke
10-27-2001, 04:31 PM
Windows is better because I can download it from the internet and not have to feel the pangs of a clear conscience!

And you should program everything on Windows because downloading something legally is not half as thrilling as pirating it!

Hillbillie
10-27-2001, 04:59 PM
>The only reason to pay for a Windows box is for game playing and game development ( the later isn't really even true)...if you're really interested in programming and you don't have a corporate budget, i don't see how you could go with anything other that linux or the free unix derivitives. everything you need for any language is free...free CORBA broker too...can't beat it...free<

So? BeOS PE is absolutely free also. Although it doesn't come preloaded with free dev stuff, it certainly has it available. You're not the only rebels that have GCC!!! Hehe...

gamegod3001
10-27-2001, 06:58 PM
I have yet to here of unrecovable windows crashes, linux on the other hand seems to be able to do that.

I run windows 98 not networked and if I get a crash it is repared with running scandisk, and defrag witch I should do anyways.

Fordy
10-27-2001, 07:16 PM
How do you define "unrecoverable"? What...when hardware is fried?

>>I run windows 98 not networked and if I get a crash it is repared with running scandisk, and defrag witch I should do anyways.


Oh, I wish it were always this simple. I've seen loads of crashes where Fdisk->Reformat->Reinstall has been the easiest way forward. I always like to restart from scratch if it looks as though the OS has been damaged/corrupted. Its easy when you have done it so many times. As long as data files are sensibly ordered and regularly backedup, there shouldnt be a problem.

gamegod3001
10-28-2001, 07:17 PM
>How do you define "unrecoverable"? What...when hardware is fried? <

No, when it does not work even if reinstaled.

>Oh, I wish it were always this simple. I've seen loads of crashes where Fdisk->Reformat->Reinstall has been the easiest way forward. I always like to restart from scratch if it looks as though the OS has been damaged/corrupted. Its easy when you have done it so many times. As long as data files are sensibly ordered and regularly backedup, there shouldnt be a problem.<

Smiles and gives thumbs up. *dumb*