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girlzone
05-10-2003, 04:54 PM
Hey :),

I have a question....
What is your favorite programming language ???
For me I like Turbo Pascal….what about you???

CheesyMoo
05-10-2003, 05:06 PM
Considering this is a C/C++ site, I would say C/C++ for the majority of people.

I like C++ myself but have not had that much experience with other languages.

This should probably belong in General Discussions.

girlzone
05-10-2003, 05:36 PM
the purpose of the question is... what is the best language in programming ???

if you have a problem and you want to solve it which language is better in solving it??

confuted
05-10-2003, 05:37 PM
I used to like QBasic. Then I liked Visual Basic. Then I learned C, and there is no going back.

CheesyMoo
05-11-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by girlzone
the purpose of the question is... what is the best language in programming ???

if you have a problem and you want to solve it which language is better in solving it??

Depends on what kind of problem, do a search on Google to find some answers, I really don't know that much.

Perspective
05-11-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by CheesyMoo
Depends on what kind of problem, .

very true. there is no 'one' best language. it always depends on the problem.

i personally like c++ and java

alpha
05-11-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Perspective
very true. there is no 'one' best language. it always depends on the problem.
agreed. I don't remember VB, and recent experience with C++ would lead me to say C++.

girlzone
05-11-2003, 06:38 PM
ok what is the most difficult programming language that you know??? or let me say which language will be the last to be chosen if you have to choose???

Brighteyes
05-11-2003, 06:54 PM
>What is your favorite programming language ???
C++

>what is the best language in programming ???
There isn't one, otherwise there wouldn't be so many.

>ok what is the most difficult programming language that you know???
C++ :D

>which language will be the last to be chosen if you have to choose???
It depends on what I'm going to be doing.

itld
05-11-2003, 06:55 PM
howdy,
i find LISP to be pretty difficult to get to do what i want.

M.R.

Perspective
05-11-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by girlzone
ok what is the most difficult programming language that you know??? or let me say which language will be the last to be chosen if you have to choose???

any assembly language (they can be fun for solving simple problems but a pain in the *** for more complex stuff)

ygfperson
05-11-2003, 07:04 PM
lisp, assembly, java...

Terrance
05-11-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by girlzone
Hey :),

I have a question....
What is your favorite programming language ???


C#

It used to be C++, until I learned that gui programming in mfc is the biggest pain in the ... in the world! And I like windows programming more than console(I don't do console anymore).

nvoigt
05-11-2003, 10:06 PM
the purpose of the question is... what is the best language in programming ???

if you have a problem and you want to solve it which language is better in solving it??


There is no best language. For each problem to solve there is a language best suited for it.

If I had to choose one language to solve the rest of the problems I encounter in my life, I would probably use C#. The language I would not use if I have any other choice is ASM.

SourceCode
05-11-2003, 11:13 PM
I prefer the only language I come close to knowing, C. I know very little python but so little I couldn't comment on it.

the Wookie
05-12-2003, 04:34 AM
if im in a hurry, VB, if not then C++

netboy
05-12-2003, 10:16 AM
A cup of coffee please. :)

GoodStuff
05-15-2003, 04:17 AM
There is no one best language. To ask such a question reveals your level of ignorance. But ignorance can be cured by a good dose of knowledge.

I consider C, C++ and Java "Good" languages because they express algorithms elegantly and concisely.

I consider Pascal and Basic "Bad" languages for the reason that they were meant to be learning tools, never serious languages. Pascal compilers needed parts written in C - Pascal isn't powerfull enough to write a compiler with! Basic is even worse.

I consider COBOL a "Terrible" language for the reason that it has very lengthy syntax. You type until you have no fingers left, and still your program is only half-finished.

That said, you must keep in mind that each problem has an ideal language in which it can be solved. AI is better solved with LISP than it is with C for instance. That does not make LISP "better" than C, it only makes LISP "better" than C for that domain of problems.

See?

Gus

Cheeze-It
05-15-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by GoodStuff
There is no one best language. To ask such a question reveals your level of ignorance. But ignorance can be cured by a good dose of knowledge.


:rolleyes: That sounds gay.

Of course asking a question reveals ignorance. It's impossible for
someone to ask a question without "revealing their level of
ignorance." Duh, that's the point of questions.

Why can't people answer a question without getting all technical
about it?

Q: "What time is it?"

A: It does not matter what I say, because the information I give you
will be outdated as soon as it reaches your ears. Asking such a
question just reveals your ignorance on this matter. I am smart. I
program computers. You are intellectually inferior to me.

You know, I'm sure there is a "best" language out there, generally
speaking. He didn't ask what the best language for AI was, or
what the best language to program games in was. Yeah, there
are languages available that do one thing better than another,
but when you ask in general terms, I'm sure there has to be one
that's the best.

I think it's time this board actually determines the best (again,
generally speaking) language and turn it into a FAQ question.
There should be a list of questions that help determine what this
almighty language is, and a scorecard that keeps track of how
many points each language received from that question. The
language with the highest score wins, and from this day on will
be known as the best language; and if anybody ever asks this
question again, every Cprog member has an ethical dutie to
reply with the results of this competition.

Questions can be centered around:

Portability.
API Support.
Difficulty.
Acceptance in Industry.

I don't know anything about any language, so I won't even attempt
to answer anything. :)

valar_king
05-15-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by girlzone
the purpose of the question is... what is the best language in programming ???

if you have a problem and you want to solve it which language is better in solving it??

I'm laughing so hard right now...
This is a prime example of flame bait.

GoodStuff
05-16-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by ethic
:rolleyes: That sounds gay.

Of course asking a question reveals ignorance. It's impossible for
someone to ask a question without "revealing their level of
ignorance." Duh, that's the point of questions.

I don't know anything about any language, so I won't even attempt to answer anything. :)

So I sound gay. So what?

And I don't think the point of a question is to reveal someone's level of ignorance. Usually the point of a question is to gain knowledge.

Girlzone should thank me for my grandmotherly love. Like valar_king said:
This is a prime example of flame bait.

My point is that the question is based on wrong assumptions. A Japanese would answer this question: "Mu" which means that, basically, your question is wrong.

The fact that you don't know anything about any language is revealed in your attitude. But the FAQ idea is cool. You planted the tree, now you must water it. Please post us a comprehensive answer to this prickly question. :D

Here's a link that might help.
The Hacker Howto (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html)

Gus

girlzone
05-16-2003, 10:54 PM
- sometimes people ask questions to know and to judge the way people think...

- and sometimes in your life you prefer certain things without any clear reasons for this * i thought that people have the same thing in programming *…

- if you people don't like the question, you don't need to answer it…

- you don't know maybe someone will benefit from it….

Terrance
05-17-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by GoodStuff


And I don't think the point of a question is to reveal someone's level of ignorance. Usually the point of a question is to gain knowledge.



But ethic never said the point to a question is to reveal someone's level of ignorance in the first place. He said that asking a question will reveal someone's level of ignorance(really we should say- lack of knowledge, not ignorance).

Anyways, no one should ever be discouraged from asking a question. As the old saying goes- there is no such thing as a stupid question... And most people consider intelligence to be measured in the ability to ask a good question- at least it means you have understanding of what's going on. Everyone has different levels of knowledge pertaining to different subjects. Just because a question may seem obvious to some, doesn't mean that everyone knows the answer.

Silvercord
05-17-2003, 05:04 PM
mix between eiffel and SNOBOL

Govtcheez
05-17-2003, 05:09 PM
Brain$$$$.

RobR
05-18-2003, 04:43 PM
Befunge.

GoodStuff
05-20-2003, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by girlzone
- sometimes people ask questions to know and to judge the way people think...

- and sometimes in your life you prefer certain things without any clear reasons for this * i thought that people have the same thing in programming *…

- if you people don't like the question, you don't need to answer it…

- you don't know maybe someone will benefit from it….

We don't have the same thing in programming, I DID answer the question, and if you wanted to know how we think, pray tell... why did you not ask ?!?

To find out how we think study the following:

The Tao of Programming
The Hackers Dictionary (Get from Project Gutenberg)
The Hacker Howto

Hope that helps.

Gus

GoodStuff
05-20-2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by Terrance
Anyways, no one should ever be discouraged from asking a question. As the old saying goes- there is no such thing as a stupid question...

Didn't discourage anyone from asking the question... I answered the question AND showed what the correct question would be.

That old saying is nonsense. Of course there are stupid questions. Stupid questions are the easy ones to ask. Clever questions are those that you take a spot of time to research before you ask.

Asking for favorite language on a C/C++ board... Stupid question - Everyone here likes C/C++ of course.

My entire post I was defending my manner of answering the question to ethic.

As for the comment about revealing ignorance, that was not meant as an insult, it just sounded good when I typed it. In retrospect I have to agree with ethic. It does sound gay. :D

Gus

Cheeze-It
05-20-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by GoodStuff
In retrospect I have to agree with ethic...


They always do... They always do... :cool:

GoodStuff
05-21-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by ethic
They always do... They always do... :cool:

Watch it flyboy. One of these days you goin' down!

Just agreed with that part... not the rest. The point of a question is STILL not to reveal ignorance...

But I'll leave it at that. Rematch for another time and place.

Gustav