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drdroid
04-01-2003, 04:30 PM
Ok, here's the deal. I'm a nerd/geek in 8th grade and I am openly treated like $$$$. Wether it be attacked about being a teachers pet(though I am not at all) or, get this c++ geek(though, from spending a day here I can barely vauge for that). For what ever reason I've tried to ignore, but they just come right back, day after day, year after year, it's become extremely annoying. I've tried everything from talking to them to complete silence. Literally, one day I didn't speak all day, while in school. Except for the 2 periods I have with my friends. Now, I'm not violent person, just in case you were wondering. So, no worries there. I'm not looking for a councelor or some sort of teachers association that I can use to tattle on alot of basterds but... I'm wondering:

Was(is?) this the same case for you?

What do you suggest?

Should I just wait it out until i'm in college or working where I'm with people like me?

Now i'm not complaining, I'm just curious and ........ed off. Oh, and, hello.

Jeremy G
04-01-2003, 04:34 PM
But once your in high school theres lots of space to manuever. Join (Marching) band. Band geeks are well, geeks, but you have 80+ friends to hang out with and eat lunch with. Usualy theres a whole area that they eat together at. Pretty safe protection. Or you can go the other way of the Loner path. Just hang out in isolated areas. Surprisingly I've found ignoring people the best answer. However when it comes down to it, defend yourself. Don't be afraid to get in a fight if you Have too.

RoD
04-01-2003, 04:34 PM
I used to get this in grade school, not in high school, im cool with girls, the guys, most of the teachers, etc.

drdroid
04-01-2003, 04:36 PM
I'm in chorus, but they pretty much resent me. I hope to meet some fellow "nerds" (if that is even politically correct) next year in high school.

TechWins
04-01-2003, 04:46 PM
The key is to not let it bother you. Go along with whatever those people are saying. If they call you a nerd, then go "damn, you're right I am a nerd; thanks for reminding me". What satisfaction can they get from that? If they're not getting any satisfaction out of bothering you, then they're not going to bother you. It comes down to not caring about what other people think about you. If they don't like you, then that's their problem. Be who you are, and be proud of who you are. There's nothing else you can do besides that. :)

drdroid
04-01-2003, 04:51 PM
It's not calling me a nerd.... Hell, I love being a nerd. But what ........es me off is when they make up $$$$. It ........es me off even more, when people believe them.

SourceCode
04-01-2003, 04:52 PM
Well unfortunately I only see two realistic choices for you. There are other things you can do but they will just make things worse.

1. You can get into a fight, and most likely "win" seeing as your really ........ed off. This would probably get you suspended from school for a few days. However it is possible to get expelled for doing this, just depends on the situation, the school, the reasons, and who you beat up. (btw after you beat up one kid they will leave you alone)

2. You can do nothing.

Now if I was you, I would try my best to go for option 1, because by the sound of things it sounds like this is really bothering you, and hey I can't blame you. I think the consequences of beating the living !@#$ out of some punk kid are not nearly as bad as what you are going through now.


Was(is?) this the same case for you?
8th Grade was great for me, but there were other years where I got picked on sure.


Should I just wait it out until i'm in college or working where I'm with people like me?
No, their are a$$holes everywhere, it is a part of life. You have to learn to deal with it unfortunately:(

Goodluck.

EDIT- Just want to add that I read techwins post and yea, that goes with doing nothing, and that "might" work, depends what kind of person you are. Also if you decide to go for option 1 and fight, don't use any weapons! Those will get you time in juvenile or probation etc.

Silvercord
04-01-2003, 05:01 PM
You could try going to an adult to get help, but I don't know how effective that would be (barely worked for me). I got picked on a lot until ninth grade. I'm not really trying to persuade you to fight, but I got picked on a lot until I hit a guy in the face in geography class, and then hit another kid on the bus, and then there were at least two others I hit (one I shot with a paintball gun and kicked in the side). Ok, what I'm trying to say is if you don't fight you can try going to an adult, but for all intents and purposes if you don't fight, suck it up and live with it.

alpha
04-01-2003, 05:06 PM
You could wait it out. It won't exactly become better freshman year; however, as time goes on, most mature people become more understanding of other's interests. I found that as the years went on during high school, people become more experienced and generally become more accepting. You can also always choose your friends, and not mind those that treat you bad.

The reason I say it doesn't magically always become better in high school during freshman year is that, unless you move, you will most likely go to the same school that a lot of the people you know in middle school will go to.

Silvercord
04-01-2003, 05:08 PM
one last tidbit:
don't go to online chat rooms to get advice on serious issues.

drdroid
04-01-2003, 05:09 PM
Thanks for all of your advise. I'm pondering what to do, and all of your options seem valid. But only one seems affective. I'll keep thinking about it. Thanks again.

TechWins
04-01-2003, 05:15 PM
Just want to add that I read techwins post and yea, that goes with doing nothing, and that "might" work, depends what kind of person you are.

No, this isn't the do "nothing" method. This is the I don't give a .......... what the .......... you think method.


But what ........es me off is when they make up $$$$. It ........es me off even more, when people believe them.

Well, don't let anything they say bother you. If you don't give them the satisfaction, then they're not going to do it.

Speedy5
04-01-2003, 05:29 PM
Basically, my method, and it worked is to just don't tell them you know a lot of computers. I've found that people resent you for awesome skills they don't have. So I just keep my programming skills tucked away when I'm with people and I get along just fine at school and when out with friends. When they ask, I just say, "Yea, I do some computer stuff just a bit. It's fun and better than watching some stupid survivor show on TV." They're cool with that. Now I am known/"friend-ed" throughout the school. Be happy-looking, don't look like you just got out of bed and don't speak softly or quietly.

Now I've had some confrontations before, not because of my computer skills, but because some people are just ..........tards. They are few and far in between and when they come, just show them who's boss. They make fun of you, don't swear back. Thats the worst thing you can do. Use your brain, think before you say anything. Swearing makes them happy, saying something intellectual (not nerdy though), is extremely effective.

I was ummm, I dunno, "average" until high school when I tried this new policy. It's worked amazingly, expecially with girls ;). I recommend it.

PS: I'm in 10th grade.

Govtcheez
04-01-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by TechWins
the I don't give a .......... what the .......... you think method. This is the correct answer. People will always suck, you just need to deal with it.

windoze victim
04-01-2003, 05:32 PM
Yeah, definatly dont pack weapons.
Also, if you like drawing weapons/fighter planes/etc., don't let teachers see.
When I moved to where I am right now, I joined boy scouts, and am now starting a venture crew. That got me some nice, athletic friends, who also happened to include a short kid who can beat up anybody, and in general, a "group".
Also, I started sports, like nordic skiing and track, and there is one heck of a large group.
Even if you aren't athetic, join and try, you will gain respect.

Most importantly, dont lone it. I tried it, but it works if you just are friendly to anyone who wants to be friends.

SourceCode
04-01-2003, 05:35 PM
No, this isn't the do "nothing" method. This is the I don't give a .......... what the .......... you think method. In the eyes of his peers yes it is doing "nothing" was my point.

Anyways your idea is great, it's only flaw is that not everyone has the will to ignore things like a bunch of punk kids calling you names, I know I do not. You gotta have some sense of pride for yourself. No matter how harsh it may sound physically defending yourself is a part of life, and what better time to learn than highschool.

Indian_fan
04-01-2003, 05:41 PM
I'd say go for a martial arts course if one is available in your locality. I'm sure you will feel the change in your thinking and personality.

Warning : do not join just to kick $$$$ out of those punters.

Shadow
04-01-2003, 05:43 PM
I've noticed a near 100% drop in that since I left highschool.

I was a loner..but I got about 50/50. Some jocks were cool, some were not. Some preps were ..............s, and the others were also. Everybody else was kind of...i-dunno, it was a giant spaghetti bowl that I don't really remember much about.

Good luck.

TechWins
04-01-2003, 06:33 PM
SourceCode, I'm not saying that you should never stand up for yourself. In certain instances, however, letting go of what people think of you is the best idea. Try to make light of every situation, but if all else fails then you should stand up for yourself.

RoD
04-01-2003, 06:43 PM
I had alot of probs in 1st - 8th grade, beginning of 8th grade i took care of it.... Im not saying to do this, just giving u an example. I picked my target, the kid who instigated 99.9% of all the $$$$ i had to deal with.

I got his aol screen name, and got onto a computer at the library near my home. I struck a conversation with him posing as a chick his age from another school (hey, it was worth the sacrafice). While talking i nailed his computers ip and such, and ran home.

Skipping all the illegal junk i got into his pc from mine, installed a keylogger, set his emails to be forwarded (ingoing and out) to one of mine as well as his so he wouldnt notice.

After a month i compiled all the data, assembled it and spread every $$$$ing thing about him i had around the school and town....he never $$$$ed with me again, the $$$$ stopped.

Use the skillz man, use the skillz.

windoze victim
04-01-2003, 06:50 PM
Martial arts would be good, and though i love nunchakus, dont bring weapons to bear in this situation. I go in trouble just for drawing knives, swords, etc.

Silvercord
04-01-2003, 09:13 PM
don't take too much advice from people on online message boards

Speedy5
04-01-2003, 10:10 PM
RoD, amazing story! U da man! :D

Xei
04-01-2003, 10:27 PM
Sorry, but gaining access to the pricks computer wont help you (if they arn't even secure, but they likely are). But dude, you're in 8th grade, you have 4.5 years left. I had the hardest time in elementary, then I went to a private school were people just thought I was a stupid geek, then I went to a public school for high school and I have found that most people do not have a problem with me at all. There are some, however, that are pricks. The ones who steal from me get threatened, the ones who physically harm me, I immediately harm back. Just don't attack anyone unless if it is necessary, or you are provoked by physical harm (It's okay to hurt the 'bad people' if needed, usually they don't come back, and it's not like they're gonna sneak up behind your desk and break your neck). The most valuable information I can give you is: Do not use a weapon for a school fight. You only EVER use one if you are being seriousely attacked; but even in fights when numerous odds are against you it's not good to pull a weapon such as a knife because it is usually used against you. One student at my private school was stabbed over 50 times in the back, and killed. And guess what, the 2 brothers that killed him got away with it because they were considered minors (16 and 17 years old); and their attack was unprovoked, he simply was walking out of his friends house, got a bottle smashed over his head, they jumped on his back and they each dealt about 25 stabbings before leaving. The ultimate goal is to stay alive.

Shadow
04-01-2003, 10:32 PM
> and it's not like they're gonna sneak up behind your desk and break your neck
That's actually pretty inaccuarate.

I know of alot of people, not neccesairly from my experiences, that will threaten, and try, and even carry out physical harm to you once they realize that you refuse to be their play toy. (During the highschool days). High-stakes ..............s. :rolleyes:

Most aren't like that, yes, but there's the ocassional one that think's he's God.

Xei
04-01-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Shadow
> and it's not like they're gonna sneak up behind your desk and break your neck
That's actually pretty inaccuarate.

I know of alot of people, not neccesairly from my experiences, that will threaten, and try, and even carry out physical harm to you once they realize that you refuse to be their play toy. (During the highschool days). High-stakes ..............s. :rolleyes:

Most aren't like that, yes, but there's the ocassional one that think's he's God.

True, there are ones that are totally insane. But they usually get you outside of the school, when they are with their friends. But I do agree, there are insane people that may perhaps stab you while walking down a hall or something.

XSquared
04-01-2003, 11:12 PM
I go by the same strategy as Speedy5. Works quite well, actually.

BTW: I'm in gr11.

OneStiffRod
04-01-2003, 11:30 PM
Unfortunately, there is not much you can do in the 8th grade - just have to wait it out. U should really look at what makes you stand out - usually these ppl will try and pick something about you that is readily noticeble - changing your waredrobe may help...

Highschool is usually a bigger place and there is ample room to spread out and make your friends and avoid idiots - usually these foolz will be busy trying to find a way to sneak off campus in highscool so they can smoke sum weezy(weed) so u won't have to worry about them much for long. Just ignore them and go about your biz - no one ever bothered me in highschool I attribute that to my u don't mess with me i won't mess with u attitude... and partially the fact that i was on the football team and could kick some ass if need be.

Ohh, and if u go into band - watch out - my whole football team in varsity level would celebrate after every victory by getting the Drummers in the band in a room and we would create a mosh pit with them in the center. As they played we would smash into them and each other... GOOD TIMES :D

Maybe u should think about cross-country.

drdroid
04-02-2003, 04:37 PM
I do track, am doing track now. I played football this fall and last. I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with it. Way to stressfull + school. Though, now that the lacrosse season has started, noone really gives a ..........(hooten nickel, for thoughs command & conquer fans). But seriously, to rod, your awesome. I'd do that but um... wow... I'm going to read up on some socket programming. :)
Any way, thanks for all your help. I'll suck it up for another year, lift some more weights, until 9th grade(when I'll be in highschool)...

P.S. I don't think the track teem could back me up in a brawl though, in fact, they'd be more inclined to run away... Too bad we don't have some sort of boxing+weightlifting+kicksumazz team. Oh, well. Thankz again.

Eibro
04-02-2003, 05:16 PM
I've never been the target of any serious bullying, but I know others who have. It hurt me to watch this and not have the confidence to do anything about it. I've noticed a serious reduction in highschool, although i've come to realize some people just never mature. You can avoid confrontation and continue to let others leech off your self esteem, or you can do something about it. Obviously the "best" solution would be to tell someone and take the non-violent approach to try to get these people to stop bullying you.

Or another solution, as already stated, would be to beat the hell out of them.

Get tough, start pumping some serious iron. Then when any of those ________ anger you, you won't be too scared to get the hell up and husk them like a coconut. I got to a point where I asked myself; if I needed to, would I be able to defend myself? Being 5'5 and 100lbs the answer was obviously no. Lifting weights gave me a serious confidence boost; i'm no longer so timid when it comes to confrontation. If push came to shove, I'd whip out my massive bear paws and maul them.

This may not be the answer for you; but it worked for me. More than strength, it gave me confidence. Find something that makes you proud and gives you confidence. I think you'll find most people are all talk and no action.

Edit: Look, i'm not much older than you (Grade 11) so don't take my advice without question. I'm still very young, and in some cases very wrong.

windoze victim
04-03-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by drdroid
I do track, am doing track now. I played football this fall and last. I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with it. Way to stressfull + school. Though, now that the lacrosse season has started, noone really gives a ..........(hooten nickel, for thoughs command & conquer fans). But seriously, to rod, your awesome. I'd do that but um... wow... I'm going to read up on some socket programming. :)
Any way, thanks for all your help. I'll suck it up for another year, lift some more weights, until 9th grade(when I'll be in highschool)...

P.S. I don't think the track teem could back me up in a brawl though, in fact, they'd be more inclined to run away... Too bad we don't have some sort of boxing+weightlifting+kicksumazz team. Oh, well. Thankz again.

Realy? The track team at my school is faster, bigger, and has more muscle than any other team. That may be that one of our coaches is the football coach and we are always hitting the wheight room. We are all one big family.:p With lots of good-lookin girls two.
Plus, when in doubt, we have discuses, shotputs, and pole vauting poles as back up.

Also, even if you only hit back a bit, you will make them back off.

try for a quit, light blow to the front of the neck, or if you have strong hands, squeez the back of the neck. use judgement, dont let them know what you know, and dont hurt anyone to badly.

on, second thought, why are you looking to us for advice?