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jverkoey
03-14-2003, 09:00 PM
Got a question for everyone here........

I was wondering, I'm a sophomore in High School (15), and I would like to know about colleges a bit.....

I'm guessing a majority of the people here are in or have graduated from college, so this shouldn't be too hard of a question.

I have wanted to get in to MIT since my freshman year of HS, therefor I have been trying really hard to master as much programming as I can, and do a lot of focusing on math.

So far, I've taught myself C++ and the Win32 and OpenGL API's and I know all of 'em really well. I have also taught myself plenty of web dev stuff (HTML, JavaScript, Java (pseudo web stuff, lol), some ASP, and a lot of other "languages")

I am currently in Accelerated Algebra II, which is technically a "Junior and half class", i call it. I taught myself Geometry last year, and got A's both quarters in that, and also in Algebra the same year (my stupid math teachers held me back for some stupid reason)

Also, I took a C++ class this year (only managed to get the 1st semester in, but I did second semester over christmas break and finished the three week semester test in 3 days........and aced it, lol

I've also been trying to develop as many different varieties of games/programs as possible. So far I have developed a platform 2d side-scrolling game, an overhead space shoot-em-up asteroids game, a strategy game, a racing game, and a 1st person RPG style game, all in OpenGL. I also maintain multiple websites and have created my own "company" called the IVGDA. I am currently working on a scripting program for use in my games, and have already finished a new OpenGL header file (that is very useful and I will be uploading to the site sooner or later)......

that's all my programming/school stuff that I've done recently.....oh, and I just started teaching myself computer programming last year, summer of 2002, so I've been programming for only about 8 months I think......

so, I dunno, I don't want to be cocky, but I think in some ways I'm almost equivalent to at least a Junior college-level programmer.....but I don't know for sure

I do know that I love programming as a passion....If my mom allowed me, I'd program every day, every hour......well, I'd take breaks every now and then, lol......

also, if this would help with a scholarship (which I am looking in to also...) I have been accepted to the National Youth Leadership Forum on Technology, and received a scholarship to that, paying for all my entry fees...a little more than $1500.....i can't remember the exact amount......

so, yah, that's all about me, if you have any info or advice on what I should try and get accomplished in the next 2 years before college, I would greatly appreciate it

-jverkoey

RoD
03-14-2003, 09:06 PM
Join any/all clubs and/or sports that interest you. Kepp your grades up, but dont kill yourself. Keep inline as far as discipline goes, and dont boast like that to the college when u try and get in :P

jverkoey
03-14-2003, 09:07 PM
..................lol..............ok, i'll keep that in mind..........so, should i just say stuff like the classes I've taken and what I've made (portfolio)...?

or would I need to give them more/less?

RoD
03-14-2003, 09:10 PM
You want them to see that you are outgoing (clubs/sports) and that you are well rounded. The essays and such are to get to know you, anyone can spit credentials at them. I would mention your passion for what you are trying to major in, but dont lay it on too heavy. The important thing is to grab their attention, when they look at your transcripts and records they will see your classes and such.

jverkoey
03-14-2003, 09:24 PM
would my company count as a club? there aren't any computer clubs at my school (the school is almost to the verge of anti-tech, *sigh*).........my company meets every tuesday in the school's library, but the school won't recognize us....so i'm not sure if it'd really count as a club or not (most of the clubs at our school are stupid things like drama club or baker's ed..........or something stupid like that, lol)

RoD
03-14-2003, 09:32 PM
I would continue to try to get it acknowledged, just keep pushing it from every angle of staff you can reach! Maybe your guidence counselor can help?

golfinguy4
03-14-2003, 10:28 PM
Just warning you... it is gonna be tough to get in there. Take as many AP's as you can. To get into MIT, you have to be very smart. On top of it, you have to have something that makes you stand out. There are a lot of smart kids out in the world. Remember this.

Scourfish
03-15-2003, 12:43 AM
Crazy Go Nuts University!

CGNU is the answer

alpha
03-15-2003, 02:42 AM
as RoD said, essays are there to get to know you; so don't write about things that can be found on the application.

also, i agree with joining other clubs that are not related to programming or computers. get into an outdoors club, or something that interests you other than computers. however, they do understand, depending on academic load, if you only do so much extracurricular activities.

as mentioned, it is extremely tough to get in. not even one C, if you already have one, forget about it. i highly recommend you try, but if you have a C, your chances to get accepted just got really slim. You have to have barely any Bs as well, usually. it seems like you are a smart kid, keep it up; and you will be fine. and remember, if you don't get in to MIT, it's not the end of the world.

best of luck!

SourceCode
03-15-2003, 06:24 AM
Just stay consistent and you will do fine. You are only 15 so you still have a good while to go. Staying consistent is what will determine wether you get in or not, and if you do not, like alpha said it is not the end of the world. Remember you do not need to go to MIT to learn to be a good programmer.:)

adrianxw
03-15-2003, 07:18 AM
Your company name certainly doesn't "roll off the tongue" easily.

*ClownPimp*
03-15-2003, 12:17 PM
Dont bet on getting into MIT unless you have published something or have won some major science competition. I know two ppl who took most of the AP classes at their school (and this was a nationally recognized high school, so they offered almost all the AP classes that were available), 5's on most of the tests, 1590 SAT (both of them), 4.0 gpa's unweighted and still didnt get in. You REALLY have to stand out to get into MIT.

Your best bet is to participate in some computer science and math competitions for HS (or college) students and do very well. Also, work on growing your company.

jverkoey
03-15-2003, 12:36 PM
thanks for all the input, i'll take it all in to consideration.......

would the college care about the number of games I have made? or do they really only care about Software Programs (the boring ones) like text editing programs or whatnot.......?

and do they care about the number of games, or the quality? I'm assuming the quality

alpha
03-15-2003, 08:34 PM
I would say the quality. They aren't just looking for students that concentrated in one area. You have to have good grades all around.

As clownpimp said, it is extremely tough and you have to stand out. not telling you not to try, just telling you like it is. I too have had friends that have had all As and still be rejected. They were on sports teams, clubs, leadership positions, etc.
You also need to show them interest. The more interest they see coming from you towards their school, the more your chances are.

Terrance11
03-15-2003, 09:09 PM
Try writing a backwards hasher... If you can do that, you definately deserve getting into MIT :D

RoD
03-15-2003, 09:16 PM
I dont even think anyone on cprogramming is in MIT...

jverkoey
03-15-2003, 10:58 PM
what's a backwards hasher? i'll try it if i know what it is...unless it's impossibly hard to make......lol

Silvercord
03-16-2003, 03:55 PM
I'd like to know what a backward's hasher is as well.

RoD
03-16-2003, 04:14 PM
Well it hashes...in reverse :D

Terrance11
03-16-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Silvercord
I'd like to know what a backward's hasher is as well.

A reverse hasher

Dalren
03-16-2003, 10:25 PM
A reverse hasher, for those who don't seem to get the joke is impossible. Hash functions are many to one functions.

Given F(x) is your hash function, F(a) could equal F(b) because of this it is impossible to determine X given the output of F(X). So if you someone created something that could reverse say an MD5 hash to its original value, MIT would let you in in a second.

kermi3
03-16-2003, 10:37 PM
There are a lot og things more important than just programming to get in somewhere like MIT.\

First, get good grades, not just in sciences, maths, computers etc, in as many subjects as you can.

Second, keep your grades consistant.

Third, keep taking honors and AP classes.

Forth: Get involved in things, sports clubs whatever. This doesn't mean join everyone you can, pick one or two, maybe three, and be committed to them, work hard on them (ENJOY THEM!!!!!!), and eventually take leadership positions in them.

Fifth: Work hard on your SATs/ACTs and get good scores, practice practice pracitce.

Sixth: When the time comes work hard on your eassays, they can about your charector.

7th: Make sure MIT knows you're intrested, starting soon or next year call their admissions office to get them to send you info, visist the school if you can, get and interview whatever, get to know them and let them get to know you.

Finally: HAVE FUN IN HIGH SCHOOL! You'll develop charector etc that schools like, and more importantly, it only comes once, love it while you can!

Hope that helps, it may not be perfect, I'm not a college admissions person. But that's been ym expirence and whatI've been told. Good Luck!

CompiledMonkey
03-18-2003, 12:38 PM
To get into a quality school like MIT, you'll need to bust your ass in HS. Not just computer and math related classes either, everything. You'll probably need around a 4.0 and a 1400 on your SATs. I'm not sure about the ACTs. My advice would be to concentrate on your school work instead of programming. MIT doesn't take you because you know how to code, they take you because your background (HS grades) shows you can learn how to code and think like the best. MIT is a school, so they want to teach. Don't try and go in knowing everything. It probably won't impress them.

Terrance11
03-18-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by CompiledMonkey
To get into a quality school like MIT, you'll need to bust your ass in HS. Not just computer and math related classes either, everything. You'll probably need around a 4.0 and a 1400 on your SATs. I'm not sure about the ACTs. My advice would be to concentrate on your school work instead of programming. MIT doesn't take you because you know how to code, they take you because your background (HS grades) shows you can learn how to code and think like the best. MIT is a school, so they want to teach. Don't try and go in knowing everything. It probably won't impress them.

4.0 and a 1400 on your SAT's is probably what a college like University of Virginia would require to get in, not MIT.

My suggestion is to stick with programming, join clubs, and try to get some leadership roles within your high school.

Colleges look at more than just grades. They want individuals who are leaders, who know how to stand out in a crowd, and who show persistence and hard work. A 4.0 gpa and a 1600 SAT alone will get you into most colleges, but not necessarily MIT.

Good luck