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zahid
03-01-2003, 05:59 AM
How many of you watching Cricket? Which team is faverit?


We may continue one thread for Cricket World Cup 2003.
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adrianxw
03-01-2003, 06:30 AM
I can't see any cricket, and I've not found any webcasts. Sad. I'm sticking with Australia to win. There have been some real suprises, the poor performance of South Africa is mystifying.

Right now India are charging against Pakistan, they scored 27 off the first 2 overs!

Indian_fan
03-01-2003, 07:58 AM
India 139/2 off 19 overs !!!

With Sachin on fire like this maybe the match will be over in another 20 overs or so !!!

Indian_fan
03-01-2003, 08:01 AM
Sachin completes 12000 runs in ODIs !!!
Jeez, Pakistan is going to get a beating today. I feel sorry for them.

shaik786
03-01-2003, 08:05 AM
Personally, I hate this game. I feel it's only for the aged class. I don't have patience to sit for 8+ hrs to watch a single match, while the result can be judged in the very first few hours itself. But there are people who sit even 5 days continous to watch the Test matches of this game.
India has given a little over publicity to the players of this game, something they don't deserve. There is also overflow of money on this game here, while there are better games to be supported like football, there's profuse waste of money spent on this game.

Indian_fan
03-01-2003, 08:17 AM
>> result can be judged in the very first few hours itself. <<
whew ! maybe Nostradamus took a few lessons from you !

>> India has given a little over publicity to the players of this game, something they don't deserve. There is also overflow of money on this game here, while there are better games to be supported like football, there's profuse waste of money spent on this game. <<
face it dude. They are professionals like you and me. They go out for their job everyday and get paid for it. Where are people like you when these cricketers get injured and are out of sport for a season which makes them go without pay for as long as they turn fit and return to the side. Kumble from your town was injured and was out of cricket for over a year without pay. Did we see you raising hell over that ? ... I still do not figure out how you allege a 'waste of money' over here.

shaik786
03-01-2003, 08:39 AM
>whew ! maybe Nostradamus took a few lessons from you !
Pathetic sense of humour you have!

Most of the players in the Indian team are professionals/big shots. For instance, Ganguly is supposed to be a prince in his hometown, Kumble/Srinath is an engineer, etc. I'm sure none of them would die of starvation if they went out off the field even for years, because by now they are all millionaires.

>They are professionals like you and me
I never disagreed they were not professionals, but only said, they have been given something in excess, something they don't deserve even in the lowest quantity. Look at their play, look at the players, they all play for themselves, not for the team. What happened to the Match Fixing scam that was unleashed, where almost every Indian player was accused?
I don't have any hatred to their income from this game, nor do I envy their publicity, but because of people like you, who support things for no cause, this game has reached where it is today in India. It has become a religion, and their players their gods, what a shame.

>Kumble from your town was injured and was out of cricket for over a year without pay. Did we see you raising hell over that ..
He is still alive, neither was his life at peril due to lack of income. If you are so bothered about him, what have you done to help him?

Crores of rupees are spent on this game annually, if only these funds were transferred to some deserving charity cause, would have helped the needy very much.

vasanth
03-01-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by shaik786
>whew ! maybe Nostradamus took a few lessons from you !
Pathetic sense of humour you have!

Most of the players in the Indian team are professionals/big shots. For instance, Ganguly is supposed to be a prince in his hometown, Kumble/Srinath is an engineer, etc. I'm sure none of them would die of starvation if they went out off the field even for years, because by now they are all millionaires.

>They are professionals like you and me
I never disagreed they were not professionals, but only said, they have been given something in excess, something they don't deserve even in the lowest quantity. Look at their play, look at the players, they all play for themselves, not for the team. What happened to the Match Fixing scam that was unleashed, where almost every Indian player was accused?
I don't have any hatred to their income from this game, nor do I envy their publicity, but because of people like you, who support things for no cause, this game has reached where it is today in India. It has become a religion, and their players their gods, what a shame.

>Kumble from your town was injured and was out of cricket for over a year without pay. Did we see you raising hell over that ..
He is still alive, neither was his life at peril due to lack of income. If you are so bothered about him, what have you done to help him?

Crores of rupees are spent on this game annually, if only these funds were transferred to some deserving charity cause, would have helped the needy very much.

Come on Man.. It is a game.. So what if it is given importance.. let it be if people like it... And the money is being spent by companies not by the govt... And lot of foreign Exchange is coming into India due to this game....


It is a religion i agree. so is foot ball..

adrianxw
03-01-2003, 09:18 AM
With the departure of Tendulkar, the run rate has dropped to a crawl. Interesting match.

vasanth
03-01-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by adrianxw
With the departure of Tendulkar, the run rate has dropped to a crawl. Interesting match.

well i think they were playig safe..
Any way India has won... I guess pakistanis have started to buy rotten eggs and tomatoes back home...:D

adrianxw
03-01-2003, 10:26 AM
As I said on the other thread, not a single maiden over. Obviously a good batting track. Both Shoaib Akhtar and Ashish Nehra, who have played so well before went for over 70 runs from their 10.

An awful lot of extras from both sides as well. 55 in the match.

Shiro
03-01-2003, 10:50 AM
>How many of you watching Cricket?

I don't watch cricket. Not that I don't like it, but here in the Netherlands it is not a popular sport, so there is very little of it on TV, radio and in the newspapers. I have seen several small pieces of cricket-games on BBC, while zapping on TV, but I didn't understand it.

adrianxw
03-01-2003, 11:05 AM
>>> very little of it on TV,

Not even when Holland are playing? I think the Holland v Namibia game on Monday will be quite entertaining.

zahid
03-01-2003, 11:00 PM
Congratulations to India !!!! This is the 4th Time in WC.



Originally posted by shaik786
Personally, I hate this game. I feel it's only for the aged class. I don't have patience to sit for 8+ hrs to watch a single match, while the result can be judged in the very first few hours itself. But there are people who sit even 5 days continous to watch the Test matches of this game.


Yeah, I do strongly agree with you. Considering time, Cricket is very expensive game (I guess most expensive). It Takes lot of time of lots of people, takes lots of space, time of media, etc. Most important is time of spectators. It's too much.

Is it a true story that Hitlar killed the German Cricket Team long ago because of 5 day long test match ended without any result. :)

zahid
03-01-2003, 11:19 PM
England needs the win against Australia.
I'm sure it will tough right now.

adrianxw
03-02-2003, 03:37 AM
>>> (I guess most expensive)

Round the world yacht racing?

>>> Takes lots of time of lots of people

It's their time, if they want to spend it doing something they like, what's the problem?

>>> takes lots of space

Less space then a golf course for example.

>>> time of media

Who cares about that! If they weren't reporting on a cricket match, they'd be out creating trouble somewhere else.

>>> England needs the win against Australia.

Yes they do. I was reading Nasser Hussein's comments about the way to beat Australia, and that England would take the game to the Aussies. I had a smile on my lips when I read it.

So I open the BBC's ball-by-ball service and found England are taking the game to the Aussies by collapsing majestically after a rather fine start - odd, I don't remember Nasser saying anything about that in the plan!

England 204 for 8 off 50
Australia 0 for 0 off 0 *** yet to win sorry, I mean bat ***

Andy Bichel is 7 for 20 of his 10, what a performance.

Got to go out now, no more updates for the time being, expect game to be over by the time I get back, so I'll add "Congratulations Australia" now.

Shiro
03-02-2003, 04:09 AM
>Not even when Holland are playing? I think the Holland v
>Namibia game on Monday will be quite entertaining.

When Holland is playing, perhaps there will be a few minutes of the game on TV in the sport program in the evening. But most of the time will be on soccer and some other more popular sports here. Sometimes, especially when Champions League games are played (soccer), whole evenings are filled with soccer.

There are other Dutch sportpeople who don't get very much time on TV when they have to play. For some strange reason darts has become a very popular sport here on TV. Recently there were many, many hours spent on dartgames. Embassy, Dutch Open etc.

I think it has to do with money. Sports that aren't popular don't attract many people looking at the sport program, so advertisers won't be interested in the program. Cricket isn't very popular here, I really wonder how many people in the Netherlands know about cricket. The same is with the Dutch baseball team and other not very popular sports.

Stoned_Coder
03-02-2003, 08:43 AM
England r gonna win Ade.

114-7 off 31.5..... Aussies need 91 with 3 wickets remaining and we got 18 overs to get those wickets!

adrianxw
03-02-2003, 09:31 AM
Sensational game - real drama. 6 overs left now, req run rate still 5. Whilst Michael Bevan is there they have chances.

LouDu
03-02-2003, 09:34 AM
The Criket world cup, have computer geeks really sunk this low (myself included) :):confused:

adrianxw
03-02-2003, 09:38 AM
23 off 24 balls needed - I can't watch!!!

I don't like the way Nasser is changing the bowlers around, gives Flintoff one over then off again and back to Ashley Giles. Same for Andy Caddick.

17 off 18...

14 off 12...

Why on Earth did he give the ball to Anderson????? Already very expensive, and now likely to loose the game for us.

Stoned_Coder
03-02-2003, 09:48 AM
damn that michael bevan. Great innings on a bowlers track!

LouDu
03-02-2003, 09:48 AM
*shakes head in confusion*

adrianxw
03-02-2003, 09:53 AM
So the Aussies win. I cannot understand why Anderson was given the ball when Caddick, or even Vaughan were less likely to concede runs.

Well done Australia.

Stoned_Coder
03-02-2003, 09:54 AM
Well done the Aussies.

Another monumental cock-up from the england boys.... 2 overs left. we send anderson on to bowl. Our most newbie expensive bowler. Michael bevan hit his first 2 balls for a six and a four. Flintoff bowled last over. first ball drops a c&b chance. 2nd ball is misfielded by vaughn and aussies get a run they shouldnt bringing bevan back on strike. Bevan boshes flintoff for 4 winning match.
Firing squad for Nasser Hussein now. Awful captaincy late in match and a stunning innings of 1. Why hasnt he dropped himself for the good of the team.

LouDu
03-02-2003, 09:55 AM
*still confused*

Stoned_Coder
03-02-2003, 09:57 AM
Sorry this is about cricket. Yanks cant seem to understand it. There is a link on the other cricket thread, that i posted that will go a long way to explaining the game.

adrianxw
03-02-2003, 10:00 AM
I used to bowl mostly, and I always hated coming on for a single over, it takes a few balls to get properly loose again and to get your line and length right. What ever was going through Husseins brain? He should have bowled out Flintoff and Caddick when he switched, then let Ashley Giles on again at the end.

As you say SC that was a cock up of olympic proportion. Hussein should be out of a job.

LouDu
03-02-2003, 10:02 AM
lol us USA folk play nornmal sports, hockey, lacrosse, football baseball, basketball, and a lil soccer :)

Stoned_Coder
03-02-2003, 10:08 AM
good to see soccer is starting to take off in USA since soccer world cup where usa did exceptionally well. In fact we have several yanks playing regular first team football in the premiership in the uk now.

LouDu
03-02-2003, 01:00 PM
<---------great womens socer team

adrianxw
03-03-2003, 05:56 AM
Pity the Dutch aren't watching their team. They've played a beauty, including Hollands first and second ever international centuries and recording hollands highest ever international score and the second highest score of the World Cup! Great effort.

Holland 314 for 4 off 50.
Namibia 250 a.o. off 46.5

Holland win by 64.

Good day for Feiko Kloppenberg, 121 runs and 4 wickets from his 10. Fairly dramatic collapse from Namibia going from 209 for 4 to 250 a.o. in 6 overs. Reasonable figures from the Namibian top order but no life in the tail. Hollands first World Cup victory - congratulations.

In todays second game...

Canada 196 a.o. of 47.
New Zealand 197 for 5 off 23

New Zealand win by 5 wickets.

John Davison knocks 75 off 62 to give an appreciable score to Canada.

Unsuprising victory. Some alarming bowling figures against the Canadians, Codrington going for 33 off 2 overs and patel only a little better going for 32 off 3.

In todays final game...

Sri Lanka 268 for 9 off 50
South Africa 229 for 6 off 45 *** in progress ***

South Africa must win today, however they are batting under the lights which seems to really be problematic during the Cup.

Attapattu's century coming off 113 balls. Attapattu, (124 off 129), and Da Silva, (73 off 78), both out within a few balls. Wickets tumbling now but SL can aford it and the score is still ticking along.

SA need 56 off 36, starting to rain - may go to Duckworth Lewis. Arrrgggh - raining hard now! If there's no resumption, SA go out.

Indian_fan
03-03-2003, 10:54 AM
SL 268/9 ... SA in trouble. I hope the top order clicks today. Lance Klusener will do the needful for the lower order :)

adrianxw
03-03-2003, 03:08 PM
So Sri Lanka / South Africa goes to a draw under Duckworth Lewis, and hence SA go out. What a sad way for it to end. Good game otherwise, swung up and down, still think it unlikely that SA would have caught SL, but now we'll never know.

biosninja
03-03-2003, 04:33 PM
Yeah...Its a pitty. Hoped my country could have gone through to the super sixes. We only needed one run to win the match though!!

zahid
03-03-2003, 10:57 PM
I have never seen such a tragedy. :(
I like to support SL but wanted badly SA in Super Six. I have observed last 3 World Cup (Including 2003), SA is never lucky.

novacain
03-04-2003, 01:37 AM
>> So I open the BBC's ball-by-ball service and found England are taking the game to the Aussies by collapsing majestically after a rather fine start - odd, I don't remember Nasser saying anything about that in the plan!<<

It was a plan so cunning you could have pinned a tail on it and called it a fox......pity Nasser did not tell Bevan about it. Bevan saves the Aussies again in a world cup.

I think that is 12 in a row for the Aussies.

adrianxw
03-04-2003, 02:51 AM
So away we go again. Important game for England this, as if Pakistan beat Zimbabwe, but not by a huge amount, England can still go through. Weather forecast dubious. Match reduced now, first to 46 overs then 44 then to 38 due to rain interruptions.

Pakistan 73 for 3 off 14 *** in progress ***
Zimbabwe 0 for 0 off 0 *** yet to bat ***

Match abandoned due to rain. 2 points each.

Pakistan won the toss and will bat first. Poor Inzamam is still in terrible form, surviving just 8 balls for 3 runs.

Australia, India and Zimbabwe go through to the next round.

Todays other game...

West Indies 246 for 7 off 50
Kenya 104 a.o. 35.5

West Indies win by 142 runs

Another short innings from Brian Lara. Lovely knock by Chris Gayle, 2 sixes and a 4 in the 46th over, finally out for 119.

Kenya all out for less thsn Chris Gayles knock, definitely not their day! Useful 5 wicket haul for Vasbert Drakes. Good performance from the WIndies, but too late to change the final table placings.

Sri Lanka, Kenya and New Zealand go through to the next round.

Indian_fan
03-04-2003, 08:42 AM
I have a gut feeling that the finals will see a tough contest between India and Australia

adrianxw
03-04-2003, 09:14 AM
No games now until 7th.

Looking at the super six, I think also, an Australia/India final may be in prospect. Sri Lanka have had a few iffy moments but can never be discounted. I can't see any of the others making an impression.

It is sad that politics and the weather have had an impact on the first round. There has also been a lot of controversy over the day/night games, the day batting side do seem to have had the balance of the luck in those games, but who's to say.

Whatever, bad luck those teams going out, congratulations to the Super Six teams, and let's look forward to some great cricket yet to come.

Calendar...

Mar 7 Australia v Sri Lanka, Centurion, 0800 GMT
Mar 7 India v Kenya, Cape Town, 1230 GMT
Mar 8 Zimbabwe v New Zealand, Bloemfontein, 0800 GMT
Mar 10 India v Sri Lanka, Johannesburg, 0800 GMT
Mar 11 Australia v New Zealand, Port Elizabeth, 0800 GMT
Mar 12 Zimbabwe v Kenya, Bloemfontein, 0800 GMT
Mar 14 India v New Zealand, Centurion, 0800 GMT
Mar 15 Zimbabwe v Sri Lanka, East London, 0800 GMT
Mar 15 Australia v Kenya, Durban, 1230 GMT

adrianxw
03-04-2003, 09:34 AM
Nasser Hussain resigns as captain of the England One Day squad! Jumped before he was pushed I say.

Govtcheez
03-04-2003, 09:36 AM
Go Sri Lanka!

Indian_fan
03-04-2003, 04:18 PM
I won't be watching any matches until after the super six. It seems very boring than the first round. I guess both Aus and India will win all their games; Srilanka, Zimbabwe and New Zealand will fight it out among themselves. ... yawn ! ... I'll just read the headlines for the next 2 weeks. (more yawns !!!)

novacain
03-04-2003, 08:18 PM
Hands up if you picked Kenya to qualify second (or at all).

>>It is sad that politics and the weather have had an impact on the first round.

Pity, looks like it cost England a place.

Commander
03-04-2003, 08:35 PM
what is this??????????

remember the time when sri lanka used 2 b on the TOP!!!

ahhhhhhhhh.... those were the days!!!

zahid
03-04-2003, 10:46 PM
I guess Sri Lanka has better stability and chance to final.
Sri Lanka Vs Australia

Anyway.. lets see.

adrianxw
03-05-2003, 02:54 AM
I think India started badly in the first round and slowly improved, Sri Lanka were up and down with some truly disasterous matches. I would never discount Sri Lanka, but on the performances in the first round, I think India are a bigger threat in the Super Six than they are, but what do I know, that is only my view of things to date.

Indian_fan
03-05-2003, 03:21 PM
I didn't follow the entire match but after reading this article i'm sure that you 'll agree when I say SA are jinxed for the last run !

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=19558

adrianxw
03-06-2003, 02:59 AM
Ouch!

adrianxw
03-07-2003, 02:33 AM
First Super Six game underway!

Australia win the toss and decide to bat.

Australia 319 for 5 off 50
Sri Lanka 233 for 9 off 47.4

Australia win by 96

Gilchrist run out on 99, stupid mix-up! Ponting's 114 off 109 balls. Fine score by the Aussies.

Sri Lankan captain Sanath Jayasuriya has to retire hurt, reducing the batting side to 10. Jayasuriya has not, as was feared at the time, broken his arm.

Todays other game.

Kenya to bat first, India therefore under the lights later...

Kenya 225 for 6 off 50
India 226 for 4 off 47.5

India by 6 wickets

Late flurry of runs and wickets see Kenya rack up a respectable score. Swashbuckling 33 off 23 balls for Maurice Odumbe. Excellent.

Sachim tendulkar's first failure in the Cup. A true captains innings from Sourav Ganguly in all probability has saved India from what would have been a very significant defeat. Well played.

Superb game.