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RoD
02-13-2003, 07:54 PM
I member a little while back, i think it was DavidP who made it, there was a post about a five year old relative and how well they used the computer. Now most of us, when we were say 11, were good enough with PC's to pull something like this (doesn't take much hehe), but would any of us have expected to be removed from the school by the police???

http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/02/13/grade.tampering.reut/index.html

civix
02-13-2003, 08:20 PM
I think that one's worth a "holy caaa-rap"!
I did the same thing a while back with my band grade and got away with it. Our teachers dont have gradebooks, they have gradeQUICKs...lol, and my not-so-smart band teacher had her network username/pass written on a post-it note on the monitor.. haha.
username: mgleim
password: trombone2
how lame.

RoD
02-13-2003, 08:26 PM
our teacher didnt have it on the screen but ms chambers was:

user: chambers
pass: abc123


lmfao....

MethodMan
02-13-2003, 08:38 PM
Some kids are so dumb. If the teacher knows the student has bad marks (my assumption as to why he changed the marks), the teacher would most likely see that they changed.

Well deserves him right...

-KEN-
02-13-2003, 08:59 PM
I've changed grades with the computer a few times...I know my school's netowrk pretty well now. :) Of course it helped that my 4th period teacher last semester tried to have me write a computerized testing program for him to use (I spent about 2 minutes on it before I lost interest. He wouldn't give me some of the info I needed...), and he had to give me some passwords and network locations for me to do so...

Wiser
02-13-2003, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by civix
I think that one's worth a "holy caaa-rap"!


I believe it was I who use that phrase. I stole it from Captain Murphy. Please dont use it.

alpha
02-13-2003, 11:20 PM
wow, being jailed. I would expect suspension, possible expulsion. but, wow, being pulled out of school by the police, that seems extreme. i know it could constitute as vandalism, but changing a grade isn't like he is destroying equipment.

civix
02-13-2003, 11:20 PM
If you stole it, then it's not legally yours. I'm stealing it, too, and if you dont like it- youre gonna have to live with it :p Hehe... I sound administritave... at least I think so. Hehe, phrase piracy :p

Panopticon
02-14-2003, 05:22 AM
Damn... a 6 grader can get jailed for that?
Next time I log in my school's network using the admin pass I'll think twice :) Looks like Ill have to go easy on locking other peoples screens for fun during class :p

RoD
02-14-2003, 05:23 AM
I don't worry about it, i was given administrative access on my student user name because i'm always fixing problems that arise, it kinda screws with peoples heads hehe.

Travis Dane
02-14-2003, 06:58 AM
They did right, Lock the bastards behind bars, It's their fault most
pc users have a bad name.

jdinger
02-14-2003, 10:33 AM
Here's what I don't get: If he's smart enough to get in and change his grades, how was he so dumb that he got bad grades in the first place?

*ClownPimip*
02-14-2003, 10:46 AM
He didnt necessary have to do any "hacking" to get in... some teachers are just dumb. For example, in my Spanishh class in HS, the teacher left her computer on WITH THE GRADING PROGRAM RUNNING and left the room... needless to say many grades were changed rofl

Xei
02-14-2003, 10:51 AM
Agreed. *Personally* I believe that a 5 year old lacks the mental experience (depending on the situation, perhaps the teacher simply left an application displaying marks running, then Jr. decided to change his grade). But otherwise... we all know that the media will make anything up. Just like CBC making up that EarthViewer.com could help you "See anywhere in the world. Good for business and helps the military." or "Its secret spy satellites updating all of the time!" But if they did not exaggerate so often they would realize that NASA seemed to get bored and made a project called BlueMarble and just took tonnes of pictures(Mainly of U.S. and I think Japan) and tried to piece them together, which is pathetic. They also would've realized that nasa could not focus the lense to .7 meters, but rather a maximum of 1km, etc..Oh, if you want a laugh though download EarthViewer and once you get a picture tell it to 'Tilt' its really funny. All it does it tilt the picture (as if it were a texture on a 2D quad) then they want the average-joe to believe that their application is giving you a totally new angle and perception! Hehe. (Anyways, I'm done with my rant)

civix
02-14-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by jdinger
Here's what I don't get: If he's smart enough to get in and change his grades, how was he so dumb that he got bad grades in the first place?
Well, he could have been changing his friends' grades, if the article says he was actually chaging his own grades, it could have been one of those dumb times when the teacher leavs his/her usrname/pass on the computer monitor.

Silvercord
02-14-2003, 04:17 PM
They did right, Lock the bastards behind bars, It's their fault most
pc users have a bad name.

I don't think any eleven year old should have any worse punishment than a suspension (barring murder). It seems unfair to impose such harsh rules on someone so young. If he really does get expelled from school the rest of his life will be completely changed forever. Haven't any of you guys gotten in trouble with the law at least once? I think everyone has.

RoD
02-14-2003, 04:20 PM
hes young....he needs to learn through guidence, not thru bars.

frenchfry164
02-14-2003, 05:48 PM
that's right

My school is the easiest target. I could plant a virus on one computer, and it would spread so quickly across the school network, it's not funny. Not one comp has antivirus, and they have NO firewall. The server comp has the IP address posted on a stickey on the monitor. I've already got into it a couple times.

deltabird
02-15-2003, 06:37 PM
You won't believe how stupid my school is. First of all, the administrator *tries* to restrict access to most exes, and use web filtering. All I did was make a c program with the line "system("cmd");". Voila! Now I can browse all drives, rename exes to run any of them, play games, etc etc.

Now here's the stupid part: They have a AppleWorks document with teacher usernames and passwords, that any kid has access to when they log on a school computer! Not too many kids know that, but still why would they do something so stupid?

Stupid part II: They keep the Opera browser with a built-in proxy on a shared network drive that each kid has access to when they log on! No more web filtering!

The "average" kid doesn't know this stuff, but with just a little computer smarts it's not too hard.

Stupid part III: Administrator:
username: adminfirst
password: adminlast

!!!

Travis Dane
02-15-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Silvercord
Haven't any of you guys gotten in trouble with the law at least once? I think everyone has.

No.

Putting him behind bars is indeed a little harsh but then again
he changed his grades and that's worth quite a punishment
in my eye's, Maybe....cleaning toilets for 1 month?