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moemen ahmed
02-08-2003, 04:51 PM
Hi all,
its nice to be here again with you. i ve been trying to learn C++ las summer, and i went well as i think, but unfortunatlly i had to stop for he last four months , so i forgot a lot. now i wanna to refresh my memory and rebuild my abilities. i chose "The C++ programming language 3rd edition " of "stroustrup" to help me, some ppl adviced me not to read it, cause its so hard ....
what do u think i need ur opinions friends

TechWins
02-08-2003, 05:50 PM
I'm reading the book currently, and I think the book is brilliant. Since you're already familiar with C++ it shouldn't be too difficult to understand. However, it seems that the book is mainly targeted for people who have a moderate grasp of the language.

Btw, why don't you get the Special Edition instead?

Travis Dane
02-08-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by moemen ahmed
some ppl adviced me not to read it, cause its so hard ....


Haha, I expected they said it's bad, I can't ever recall one saying
a programming book is too hard. Well go read it! stroustrup
wrote it godamnit! How can it be wrong? Hard maybe.....

moemen ahmed
02-08-2003, 06:49 PM
thanks guys for replying , i ll go ahead , and as u said it "it cant be wrong" and even if its hard i dont think it ll be a real problem


thanks again

Travis Dane
02-08-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by moemen ahmed
and as u said it "it cant be wrong"

I said that because stroustrup wrote it, And he's the father of
C++, So i trust on it he know what he's talking about.

moemen ahmed
02-08-2003, 07:01 PM
oh I know this , whatever thanks

another question i like to ask ,pls
does it matter so much what compiler am i using ,specially if its "VC++6", or "DevC++"


{ sry, im sure this had been asked thousands of time here"





????????/

Travis Dane
02-08-2003, 07:13 PM
Well, It's said that MSVC++ is bad for beginners, But i started
it and had no trouble. Dev++ Supposed to be good for beginners,
no fancy ####.

Terrance11
02-08-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by moemen ahmed
Hi all,
its nice to be here again with you. i ve been trying to learn C++ las summer, and i went well as i think, but unfortunatlly i had to stop for he last four months , so i forgot a lot. now i wanna to refresh my memory and rebuild my abilities. i chose "The C++ programming language 3rd edition " of "stroustrup" to help me, some ppl adviced me not to read it, cause its so hard ....
what do u think i need ur opinions friends

I like the c++ complete reference, and do as many programming excersises as you can if you really want to grasp the concepts.

Shiro
02-09-2003, 03:56 AM
The book of Stroustrup is great, it is hard, but there is nothing bad with that. It just means that reading the book will go a bit slower than reading an easy book on C++. But I think you get a better understanding of C++ during reading this book.

adrianxw
02-09-2003, 05:21 AM
Stroustrups coding style is out of date. I would advise the use of the Allman format. I think the book can be a little esoteric.

Travis Dane
02-09-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by adrianxw
Stroustrups coding style is out of date. I would advise the use of the Allman format. I think the book can be a little esoteric.

What do you mean with out of date? Too old? Compiler used too
old?

adrianxw
02-09-2003, 10:21 AM
>>> What do you mean with out of date?

I'm talking about the way he formats his code. You can use whatever format you like of course, with any reasonable compiler. The formatting is how the code is laid out on the screen.

Early formats like K&R, classic C and Stroustrups were devised when people worked, at best, on 80x24 character screens, or on printed pages. The essence of these formats was to get as much on the screen/page as possible. It didn't matter what it's readability figures were like.

These days, with modern IDE's this is no longer a limitation, and one can apply a format scheme that has high readability factor. Whitesmiths and Ellemtel were amongst the early leaders, but the format with consistantly the highest readability factor is Allman format.

moemen ahmed
02-09-2003, 04:09 PM
well its good notice adrianx. may u tell us where to find more about the different formats ?


thanks in advance :)