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GanglyLamb
01-28-2003, 01:55 PM
sry if i offend some Americans by saying this but wouldnt it be great to have a game called President evil where the president is Bush and he has a private millitia (which is actually a "public" secret army or commando) and then he reveals his evil plan.


I want to seize control over the world. The only reason is that i wan to be rich.So troops u now what to do. Go and plunder, and if ur there get me some oil barrels will ya, in the name of the President. God Bless all of ya

President Bush


i bet this game would be a bestseller of "non"-fiction or "reality" games.

ober
01-28-2003, 01:59 PM
wow... that's funny.. good idea... :rolleyes:

OneStiffRod
01-28-2003, 04:38 PM
I've gotta a funner game called -- EUROPE PACIFISM --

in the game you win by being the worst leader/country in the world. You race other european nations to dismantle your military, degrade your influence, and ruin your economy - the nation with the worst military and economic scores are the winners.

I haven't figured out what you win though - maybe the nobel PEACE O SH***T prize.

Zewu
01-28-2003, 04:55 PM
Libertarianism is the ideology I believe in. Neither the US nor Europe is satisfying me.

Fountain
01-28-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by OneStiffRod
I've gotta a funner game called -- EUROPE PACIFISM --

in the game you win by being the worst leader/country in the world. You race other european nations to dismantle your military, degrade your influence, and ruin your economy - the nation with the worst military and economic scores are the winners.

I haven't figured out what you win though - maybe the nobel PEACE O SH***T prize.

Ever been to Britain OSR? Dont bother, cos you will be the first on the end of my boot.

Nothing wrong with our Army or economy (except for last 5 days on FTSE)

Now, if you meant France and all the other soft nations, please edit your post.

Fountain-source of CORRECT information.

Brian
01-28-2003, 05:09 PM
What the ****? This is a ****ing programming board. I don't have time for any of this ****ing **** on this ****ing board. Why the **** do I have to put up with this ****ing mother**** of a bull**** thread. Arg I'm going to kill you all.

[/RoD impression]

RoD
01-28-2003, 05:13 PM
LMAO!!!!!


thats great man lmfao....

dP munky
01-28-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Fountain
Now, if you meant France and all the other soft nations, please edit your post.
...speaking of the french

here is what i dont understand the french have their noses in the air when it comes to americans, and why? you would think that bailing them out of two big ones within 30 years they would like americans yet they hate us.

Panopticon
01-28-2003, 06:38 PM
yeah great idea!
and perhaps you get the choice of playing bush, and in that case, your mission is to declare war on countries that control oil and petroleum production <cough>iraq</cough> and eventually bring the prices of petrol down by 3 whole american cents per litre!

But seriously, thats a cool idea for a game since there are so many anti-bush ppl out there. As long as no-one books the game makers for defamation or some crap.

minesweeper
01-28-2003, 07:16 PM
>>Ever been to Britain OSR? Dont bother, cos you will be the first on the end of my boot.

Nothing wrong with our Army or economy (except for last 5 days on FTSE)

Now, if you meant France and all the other soft nations, please edit your post.

Fountain-source of CORRECT information.<<

Amen!!

damonbrinkley
01-28-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Panopticon
yeah great idea!
and perhaps you get the choice of playing bush, and in that case, your mission is to declare war on countries that control oil and petroleum production <cough>iraq</cough> and eventually bring the prices of petrol down by 3 whole american cents per litre!



It's funny how everyone thinks the oil is the reason for the US involvement.......maybe they don't realize that Iraq is in direct violation of UN inspection committees.

Commander
01-28-2003, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by damonbrinkley
It's funny how everyone thinks the oil is the reason for the US involvement.......maybe they don't realize that Iraq is in direct violation of UN inspection committees. So the fact that North K giving out the middle finger and starts making nukes is not a direct violation of UN/world <INSERT WORD(S)>.

alpha
01-28-2003, 09:27 PM
Actually, the problem with N. Korea is being addressed, but I believe N. Korea agreed to resolution. Iraq hasn't agreed to resolution, and has not acknowledged anything, for example, look at Monday's events.

TravisS
01-28-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by OneStiffRod
I've gotta a funner game called -- EUROPE PACIFISM --

in the game you win by being the worst leader/country in the world. You race other european nations to dismantle your military, degrade your influence, and ruin your economy - the nation with the worst military and economic scores are the winners.

I haven't figured out what you win though - maybe the nobel PEACE O SH***T prize.

Originally posted by Fountain
Ever been to Britain OSR? Dont bother, cos you will be the first on the end of my boot.

Nothing wrong with our Army or economy (except for last 5 days on FTSE)

Now, if you meant France and all the other soft nations, please edit your post.

Fountain-source of CORRECT information.

LOL. Did he say anything about Britain? NO! He said Europe. France is in Europe, Britain, Germany, Austria, etc... Should the post have been called "EUROPE (except Britain) PACIFISM"? Hehe, take it in a good way, this just means Britain's losing the game :p.

Panopticon
01-28-2003, 10:47 PM
oOo a ruckus...
Im sorry if i offended anyone with my previous post [or this] but that was just my opinion of why bush is pushing iraq around. Or maybe its a personal revenge thing i dunno... this all happened abit too sudden to seem genuinely in the best interests of the country... but thats my opinion.

dP munky
01-28-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Panopticon
... this all happened abit too sudden to seem genuinely in the best interests of the country... but thats my opinion.
i think i'd have to agree, we're "fighting" the "war" on terror and all of the sudden we're in the exact same position as we were 12 years ago?? Yes, the guy is in direct violation of UN provisions. but he has been since 1997 when he kicked the inspectors out, (right?) i mean, why didnt we do anything then? im not saying i oppose the war because i dont, i think that a koo should be staged [evil grin] and he should be out, he's a bad guy, but this whole iraq thing did seem to just BAM! come outta nowhere

KingoftheWorld
01-28-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by alpha
Actually, the problem with N. Korea is being addressed, but I believe N. Korea agreed to resolution. Iraq hasn't agreed to resolution, and has not acknowledged anything, for example, look at Monday's events.
It's time for UN to let US put in action to disarm Sadam. If Sadam is not stupid, then he must take the last chance to work willingly and honestly with UN and prove explicitly to the World that his country is innocent. I see the UN and US give him several chances to make his country avoid War, but why he did not give up and just simply destroy his mass destruction weapon instead of hidding. Please Sadam, just do simple thing is to destroy your ambition or whatever involved with mass of destruction, prove the World that you are innocent, then the WAR will be avoid, the World will be in peace. And after that the whole World will judge who is big liar or deception. The truth is truth.
Sadam, think smart, man! unless you dont want peace.
KingoftheWorld

Panopticon
01-28-2003, 11:02 PM
Saddam


What an amusing name for such a character!
Well I do agree that hes actions are wrong and he needs to be punished... but war is so steep. Cant we just Saddam-nap him?

dP munky
01-28-2003, 11:02 PM
i dont think the guy cares, he goes on the air telling his people that if we invade his army will send us home in body bags

novacain
01-29-2003, 12:59 AM
>>but he has been since 1997 when he kicked the inspectors out, (right?)

No, it was 1998 and the UNSCOM inspectors were withdrawn by Butler (thier head) because the US told them it was going to start Operation Desert Fox (coincidently on the same day Clinton was due to be impeached for 'Monica-gate'). Butler withdrew them without UN authorisation. Iraq has not been eager to allow inspectors to return, especially after it was revealed that what Iraq had long contended was true, the United States had used inspectors to spy on the Iraqi regime.

Its the media that is 'spinning' it to make Sadam look worse.


take these from CNN

This is the second time in a month that UNSCOM has pulled out in the face of a possible U.S.-led attack. But this time there may be no turning back. Weapons inspectors packed up their personal belongings and loaded up equipment at U.N. headquarters after a predawn evacuation order. In a matter of hours, they were gone, more than 120 of them headed for a flight to Bahrain.

--Jane Arraf, CNN, 12/16/98

What Mr. Bush is being urged to do by many advisers is focus on the simple fact that Saddam Hussein signed a piece of paper at the end of the Persian Gulf War, promising that the United Nations could have unfettered weapons inspections in Iraq. It has now been several years since those inspectors were kicked out.

--John King, CNN, 8/18/02

damonbrinkley>> It's funny how everyone thinks the oil is the reason for the US involvement.......maybe they don't realize that Iraq is in direct violation of UN inspection committees.

You can't be in "direct violation of UN inspection committees" (and they are not anyway). You can be in violation of a security council resolution.

But EXACTLY which one is Iraq in violation of? (I suggest you look it up)

I just have two questions;

1. Why Iraq? Other countries have these WMD (weapons of mass destruction), are in violation of UN security council resolutions and are attacking smaller neighbours. (ie Israel, SCR 242 and 338 calling for withdrawal from the West Bank and Gaza)?

2. If the US (and the Bush presidents) were so outraged at the use of these WMD on Kurds in 1988, why keep selling them to Iraq till 1990?

"Senator Donald Riegle, then chair of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking Housing and Urban Affairs that oversees U.S. export policy said, "UN inspectors had identified many U.S. manufactured items that had been exported from the U.S. to Iraq under licenses issued by the Department of Commerce, and (established) that these items were used to further Iraq's chemical and nuclear weapons development and its missile delivery system development programs." "

If you need links to these facts please ask and I will post them.

GanglyLamb
01-29-2003, 05:35 AM
this thread wasnt meant to end in a political-war- whatsoever-neverending-discussion
the thought of the came just came up

adrianxw
01-29-2003, 06:12 AM
Learn.

All you have to do is mention the US in here, and before long, whatever you meant originally, the thread will run off into la-la land, (as this one has), with the anti's and the pro's dragging up the same old arguments.

Sad but true, there are to many hotheads around on both sides to have a reasoned debate.

GanglyLamb
01-29-2003, 06:41 AM
Sad but true, there are to many hotheads around on both sides to have a reasoned debate.


if not then life wouldnt be fun imagine urself someone who always agrees with what u saylife with become boring

adrianxw
01-29-2003, 06:47 AM
>>>
if not then life wouldnt be fun imagine urself someone who always agrees with what u saylife with become boring
<<<

You either didn't read or did not understand what I said.

Reasoned debate is not simply agreeing with someone, it is presenting a point of view and backing it up with informed data, the acceptance that other, possibly contradictory data exists and, at the end of the day, if you cannot reach agreement, agreeing to differ.

What we see so often here is the childish "my dads bigger than your dad" style of "debate".

GanglyLamb
01-29-2003, 07:54 AM
<<my dads bigger than your dad>>

NAA that aint true my did is bigger then yourz

:D
k thread's all oftopic now